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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
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    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    #1. God doesn't dictate what's taught in our schools. Our schools are secular institutions by virtue of our Constitution. That is an inarguable fact.

    #2. Talking about a subject in an open forum isn't teaching someone homosexuality. They aren't telling these kids to be gay or that they are wrong for having religious beliefs that say being gay is a sin. These students would have been able to be as vocal as they wanted about their view of homosexuality and learning to support your views in discussion is what the class they were in was about.
    My bad i thought colleges where out there to TEACH. I forgot they have been nothing more then far left, communists for a very long time now.
    As for this subject in a college setting they may not be teaching you how to BUTT eff your partner, they are simply trying to propagandize a very sick and disgusting behavior as normal and OK.

    Doesnt mean God has to like what the schools teach does it? which was all i said I NEVER SAID God was involved in our schools. Its very obvious he isnt look at them. Total sh!tholes i would not send my children to any secular indoctrination center.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    My bad i thought colleges where out there to TEACH. I forgot they have been nothing more then far left, communists for a very long time now.
    As for this subject in a college setting they may not be teaching you how to BUTT eff your partner, they are simply trying to propagandize a very sick and disgusting behavior as normal and OK.

    Doesnt mean God has to like what the schools teach does it? which was all i said I NEVER SAID God was involved in our schools. Its very obvious he isnt look at them. Total sh!tholes i would not send my children to any secular indoctrination center.
    Worse poor reading response I've seen in awhile. The teaching is in the discourse, the discussion, the debate. Such requires critical thinking skills, organizational skills, and reasoning skills, no matter which side your on. And teaching those is learning.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    My bad i thought colleges where out there to TEACH. I forgot they have been nothing more then far left, communists for a very long time now.
    As for this subject in a college setting they may not be teaching you how to BUTT eff your partner, they are simply trying to propagandize a very sick and disgusting behavior as normal and OK.

    Doesnt mean God has to like what the schools teach does it? which was all i said I NEVER SAID God was involved in our schools. Its very obvious he isnt look at them. Total sh!tholes i would not send my children to any secular indoctrination center.
    No, God doesn't have to like it. That much is true, but entering into a discussion about the merits of a State defunding schools and trying to oust unopposed board of trustee members because of literature and plays with homosexual themes being used in the curriculum with that argument that God doesn't think its right isn't addressing the issue. Whether God, in your mind, thinks its right or not is irrelevant and has no bearing on a discussion of academic freedom in an institution that is secular by law.

    Had your child been at that school and been required to read that short little graphic novel for a class, he or she could have stood up and spouted off exactly what your just said. He could have offended people and made them angry and no one could have told him not to because he has the right to have his opinions and speak on them, just like this institution has the right to freely decide what themes and topics they will ask their students to discuss.

    How poorly formed are the opinions of these children you are so worried about being "indoctrinated" that their minds can be changed by a class discussion of a graphic novel?

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I am going to go out on a limb, the bible teaches love it also teaches homosexuality is wrong. God loathes the act of homosexuality so much he destroyed sodom and gomarrah over it.
    The Bible teaches that we are not the ones to condemn and that is to be left to God. And you may want to do a little research on the Sodom and Gomorrah story. It was about more than just homosexual sex, although that's the single thing that fundamentalists and some others seem to grab on to justify their modern day attempts to demonize their fellow man.

    Luke 6:37 / King James Version

    37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I would say God would not condone teaching homosexuality either.
    No one is teaching homosexuality. These are colleges. I seriously doubt that any of those students need to be taught about what homosexuality is.

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    homosexuality should not be taught in ANY school system.
    First Amendment stuff there my friend. Both establishment and freedom of speech. Don't like it? Don't have your kid take that class. No one is requiring it.

    And for a little lite reading, maybe you would like to read the following Bible passages about loving thy enemy:

    (Matthew 5:43-44) (Matthew 19:18-19) (Matthew 22:36-39) (Mark 12:29-31) (Romans 13:9) (Galatians 5:14) (James 2:8) (Matthew 5:43-48)

    Christians should continue to love our enemies, that is if we're talking about what the Bible actually says about the subject.

    And as for these politicians a laymen that call themselves ministers of righteousness while condemning others, I feel that this particular verse speaks volumes about them:

    2 Corinthians 11:14-15 / King James Version

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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    I have a number of friends and relatives that are gay or lesbian. And none of them are my enemies.
    Everything in your life is a reflection of a choice you have made. If you want a different result, don't blame someone else, or expect others to make a change, you should stop complaining and make a different choice. Remember, the circumstances of your birth don't determine the outcome of your life.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The Bible teaches that we are not the ones to condemn and that is to be left to God. And you may want to do a little research on the Sodom and Gomorrah story. It was about more than just homosexual sex, although that's the single thing that fundamentalists and some others seem to grab on to justify their modern day attempts to demonize their fellow man.

    Luke 6:37 / King James Version

    37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

    No one is teaching homosexuality. These are colleges. I seriously doubt that any of those students need to be taught about what homosexuality is.

    First Amendment stuff there my friend. Both establishment and freedom of speech. Don't like it? Don't have your kid take that class. No one is requiring it.

    And for a little lite reading, maybe you would like to read the following Bible passages about loving thy enemy:

    (Matthew 5:43-44) (Matthew 19:18-19) (Matthew 22:36-39) (Mark 12:29-31) (Romans 13:9) (Galatians 5:14) (James 2:8) (Matthew 5:43-48)

    Christians should continue to love our enemies, that is if we're talking about what the Bible actually says about the subject.

    And as for these politicians a laymen that call themselves ministers of righteousness while condemning others, I feel that this particular verse speaks volumes about them:

    2 Corinthians 11:14-15 / King James Version

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
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    I have a number of friends and relatives that are gay or lesbian. And none of them are my enemies.
    Well said, my friend.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    Well said, my friend.
    Thank you.
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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Kids may become legal adults at 18, but it's not like they pass through some magic maturity field. Some take a little longer than others to grow up, grow into adulthood.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Kids may become legal adults at 18, but it's not like they pass through some magic maturity field. Some take a little longer than others to grow up, grow into adulthood.

    That's true. But the more you control them, the slower that maturity takes place. By 18, the reins should be loosened considerably. Mom and Dad should not be micromanaging what they see in college.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    When my kids go to college, my husband & I will be paying. We will decide what's appropriate. I have no interest in other adults providing my children with graphic content and pictures. They can provide that to their kids all day long.
    No, you don't. Departments decide, administration decides, and students give feedback. Parents are about as far away from the process as you can imagine.
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