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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, handed out. I'm actually not worked up over it. I think you're confusing me with the OP who is worked up over it.
    Someone is overreacting. The book was companion to the play. It would be a nice comparison of mediums, with the added controversial content. For college students, this is usually fair game. The expectation is that they are mature enough to handle such material. I'd have more trouble if there was evidence that a free exchange of ideas was hindered. However, as best I can tell, that question wasn't even asked.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Someone is overreacting. The book was companion to the play. It would be a nice comparison of mediums, with the added controversial content. For college students, this is usually fair game. The expectation is that they are mature enough to handle such material. I'd have more trouble if there was evidence that a free exchange of ideas was hindered. However, as best I can tell, that question wasn't even asked.
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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Again, the issue isn't what you want your kids to be exposed to. That's your prerogative and, later, your kid's prerogative. Its that a government body is cutting funding and trying to oust a board of trustees *specifically* and *only* because the college deals with subjects they don't like even though these are topics that are in the news on a daily basis and very relevant to our time.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's the beauty of America. We can all decide what's best for our own children.
    Children, not adults. If they're still asking your permission at 18, 19, we might talk about other issues.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by vash1012 View Post
    Again, the issue isn't what you want your kids to be exposed to. That's your prerogative and, later, your kid's prerogative. Its that a government body is cutting funding and trying to oust a board of trustees *specifically* and *only* because the college deals with subjects they don't like even though these are topics that are in the news on a daily basis and very relevant to our time.
    Where the lawmakers went wrong, in my opinion, was stating their objection based on their personal views on gay lifestyles, which, by the way, I don't share. I'm very much pro-gay marriage. I'm pro-anykindof marriage, and believe that people have a right to their bedroom preferences without explanation or apology.

    If I were a lawmaker I would object merely because it isn't what I think children should be learning in their first days of college, again for the reasons I outlined. Four years from now most of them will graduate without jobs, and will whine that they can't find jobs, and in all of this, the reason for going to college in the first place has been lost. It's to get skills to find a job, and there is nothing in that book that is skill-teaching.

    I would rather see them being given something that is useful, like the Constitution, the Declaration of Independance, the history of our country, a biography on Lincoln, etc.

    Just my opinion.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Children, not adults. If they're still asking your permission at 18, 19, we might talk about other issues.
    If I'm paying for my 19 year old's college education, they are still asking my permission. If they are paying for it on their own with their own money, I will have no say in it.

    And even when they are in their 50s, I will still refer to them as my children, which is what all 3 of them are, or should I call them something else?

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The only thing that the college did that disturbed me in that entire article (which was very long!) was this piece:

    The school purchased copies of the graphic novel which includes cartoons that show two women having sex for every incoming freshman

    I'm sorry, but that bothered me. I don't think the college should be giving that kind of material to incoming freshmen, and no, not because it's depicting gay sex. Sorry, but as the mother of 3, I wouldn't want my kids' college to provide them with graphic novels containing cartoons of heterosexual couples having sex, either. Maybe I'm terribly old fashioned, but this all seemed a bit out of line.
    With all due respect...do you not believe your "children" have not already been exposed via the internet to far more graphic images than a cartoon depicting two women having sex?

    What college freshment does not have a device with all sorts of images...graphic included, coming at them hourly?


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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If I'm paying for my 19 year old's college education, they are still asking my permission. If they are paying for it on their own with their own money, I will have no say in it.

    And even when they are in their 50s, I will still refer to them as my children, which is what all 3 of them are, or should I call them something else?
    No. it's his education and not yours. Paying or not. Cut the apron strings, let the student grow up. We're not talking about what you refer to them as, but how you treat them.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    With all due respect...do you not believe your "children" have not already been exposed via the internet to far more graphic images than a cartoon depicting two women having sex?

    What college freshment does not have a device with all sorts of images...graphic included, coming at them hourly?
    Of course they have. My kids all play hockey and travel with their teams, and one of their teammates usually brings along his father's Playboy magazine. They also have all had the required health classes in school where they learned about body parts. No, they don't have internet access at home so none of them see porn in our house.

    But what does any of that have to do with what I posted? And why did you put "children" in quotes? I have 3 - all teenagers. And yes, I carried them all in my uterus, so I consider them children, and not puppies.

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    Re: SC House votes to cut funding to public university for homosexul literature

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. it's his education and not yours. Paying or not. Cut the apron strings, let the student grow up. We're not talking about what you refer to them as, but how you treat them.
    Like I said - the beauty of America is that we can all raise our children as we see fit. With all due respect, I don't take parenting advice from strangers on a message board. You do what works with your children, and my husband and I will do what works with ours. Okay?

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