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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes and through the representatives THE PEOPLE elected these laws were made. Don't like it, change the law. Bundy is a freeloader.
    Too bad those who are so outraged aren't as outraged at welfare freeloaders, or workmans comp freeloaders, or healthcare freeloaders....
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Seems to me that land is all of ours. That's why it sucks we are told when, where , how and how much to use it.

    Who did you think owned it?



    That land belongs to the USA.

    We all own it, just like we own the national parks in the USA.

    But we can't all put our livestock there anytime we feel like it.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Too bad those who are so outraged aren't as outraged at welfare freeloaders, or workmans comp freeloaders, or healthcare freeloaders....
    Too bad those that are outraged by welfare freeloaders arent outraged over this. Works both ways

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That land belongs to the USA.

    We all own it, just like we own the national parks in the USA.

    But we can't all put our livestock there anytime we feel like it.

    I am pretty sure that we drove up to the grazing land in question with a couple thousand cows to graze on the land the Bundys would be screaming bloody murder over any of us using the land.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The facts of the case don't matter to these extremist folks.

    As I said in another thread it's not about the facts but the narrative.

    Salt of the earth rancher defies tyrannical federal government.

    Doesn't matter what happens with this case, they will not accept any information that would cause that narrative to shift.
    Kind of like it's not the facts but the seriousness of the charge?
    You guys invented that.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That land belongs to the USA.

    We all own it, just like we own the national parks in the USA.

    But we can't all put our livestock there anytime we feel like it.
    Oh reall y...did we get a say so in those conditions. The Bundys don't feel they.did.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Well if we are equal landlords maybe he should have asked for a simple vote of the landlords to see if they objected to his using land that also belongs to them.
    If 50% + 1 of americans endorse his request, then graze away.

    He never bothered to ask.
    If 52 people own equal shares of a time share condo, and one guy decided unilaterally to stay there 50 weeks, would that be fair?

    Obviously it is not practical to poll all americans every time public lands are requested by a rancher. Enter the BLM that, on behalf of all americans, rents the land to him. I guess we should divide up the land in question into equal sizes to give to every adult american, then let Bundy contact every single landowner of the land he wants to use and pay them rent.

    OR

    he could stop being an asshole and pay the BLM fees.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes and through the representatives THE PEOPLE elected these laws were made. Don't like it, change the law. Bundy is a freeloader.
    Bull****...I would bet it was an executive order
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Too bad those that are outraged by welfare freeloaders arent outraged over this. Works both ways
    The grass is still gonna grow whether the cows eat it or not and I don't see an injured party in the government with Bundy's case. But I understand your point.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Bull****...I would bet it was an executive order
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