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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Not an option for the Bundy.
    1.How do you know it is not an option for Bundy? Are the Bundys poor? They can't sell of the ranch and move somewhere else? I can't imagine undeveloped land out in the country costing that much. In many parts of the US for the price of a home in the city you can get 20,30,40 100 acres or more of land.

    2.IF he can not move then he is SOL.He doesn't own the property he is grazing his cattle on.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What if I have a signed contract which states that the rent price will stay the same for a certain period of time?

    That changes things, eh?
    Completely different issue. If the rent was raised before the original contract terms were up, you'd have the right to continue paying the same price as agreed in the original contract - you'd have no right to stop paying rent and could refuse signing a new contract until the previous one is made void.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    His rights did exist before the BLM, just like my rights existed before me.
    Your rights existed before you? What?

    No. Rights exist with or without you. Your rights exist when you exist.


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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you have a right to graze on land that doesn't belong to you?
    Seems to me that land is all of ours. That's why it sucks we are told when, where , how and how much to use it.

    Who did you think owned it?
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I would move. It doesn't matter why the landlord raised the rent.It is the landlord's right to raise rent.
    WE ARE THE LANDLORDS! That's what this whole.thing is about.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    WE ARE THE LANDLORDS! That's what this whole.thing is about.
    Then you should be pissed off that Bundy hasn't paid rent and that you had to pay extra for grass fed beef has been fed off the land we are the owners of.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Completely different issue.
    If the rent was raised before the original contract terms were up, you'd have the right to continue paying the same price as agreed in the original contract - you'd have no right to stop paying rent and could refuse signing a new contract until the previous one is made void.

    Source: I rented when I was younger.



    I don't believe that Bundy has ever paid any rent for the land that he has been illegally using.

    The guy is a total scofflaw and/or outlaw who I believe will eventually learn the hard way that disrespecting the law has consequences.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    There are way too many here who don't understand government over-reach (or they flat out support it)

    Bundy didn't just wake up one mkrning and decide he wasn't going to pay fees any longer, he was intimidated by that constant noise of what he considered to be tyranny. That noise has only gotten louder for.us all.
    Can you be anymore melodramatic with your posts? Gimme a break "noise of tyranny"? Typical right wing bull****.

    No be didn't just wake up and do it, he's been breaking the law for 20 years! If you don't like a law, change it. Funny that other ranchers were paying this. Maybe you and bunch can bunk up and get the hell out of the country since you despise it so much.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    WE ARE THE LANDLORDS! That's what this whole.thing is about.
    Yes and through the representatives THE PEOPLE elected these laws were made. Don't like it, change the law. Bundy is a freeloader.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    The facts of the case don't matter to these extremist folks.

    As I said in another thread it's not about the facts but the narrative.

    Salt of the earth rancher defies tyrannical federal government.

    Doesn't matter what happens with this case, they will not accept any information that would cause that narrative to shift.

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