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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, you enjoy seeing heavily armed government LEO, go after your neighbors eh? pathetic....Wait til they come for you, and no one gives a ****.
    Still ignoring the decades of court orders and fines and everything else that brought this idiot to this point in time.

    I don't enjoy the situation, but Bundy brought this upon himself. It's hilarious how the "personal responsibility" champions just drop it the second one of their own gets what's coming to him.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    His actual words were:
    Link?

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    At 4:30; http://danaloeschradio.com/the-weste...-federal-govt/

    Bundey: "It get's back to the ownership of this, who owns this land. Does the sovereign state of Nevada own this land within their borders, or does the United States own this land? If the United States owns this land then I guess I'm wrong."
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    I can't find the actual interview so you will have to go to 2:35 of this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1SUt7Y7FSA

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Fun fact:
    The Paiute Indians of Nevada were forced into reservations by federal troops in 1875 – two years after the tribe had been promised the same land where Cliven Bundy now grows melons and grazes cattle.

    Property records cast doubt on Cliven Bundy’s ancestral claims to disputed federal land
    I say we side with Bundy on the 'ancestral rights' argument and give all the land back to the Paiute Indians.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    I can't find the actual interview so you will have to go to 2:35 of this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1SUt7Y7FSA

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    I listened to the original interview in it's entirety, Bundey simply over-spoke in an effort to stress how he feels. It wasn't a literal statement, but hey, that's why you have to keep your emotions in check when talking to the media.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Thanks for confirming my post, although I'm not sure why you went to the trouble.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I listened to the original interview in it's entirety, Bundey simply over-spoke in an effort to stress how he feels. It wasn't a literal statement, but hey, that's why you have to keep your emotions in check when talking to the media.
    Link? Right back atcha!

    nvm you edited the upper post

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    nvm the nvm
    the upper link you edited in is not the same interview.
    In your link I love how he moves the goal posts about land ownership. The feds own the lan, Nope the sovereign state of NEvada owns. Nope Clark County owns it. WHy stop there CLiven? Maybe you really do own it.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Not all beef are grass fed. Some operations go directly to milk and then transition to grain mixtures. usually the highest quality meat or veal operations.
    Maybe calves used for veal. 99.9999% of the rest start off primarily on grass, then to grain at feed lots.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
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    At 4:30; The Western War: Last Remaining Rancher Vs The Federal Gov’t | The Dana Show

    Bundey: "It get's back to the ownership of this, who owns this land. Does the sovereign state of Nevada own this land within their borders, or does the United States own this land? If the United States owns this land then I guess I'm wrong."
    Then as someone pointed out earlier: he would owe the state of Nevada a lot more money than the federal government. Either way he is still a deadbeat rancher regardless of who he owes the money to.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    Then as someone pointed out earlier: he would owe the state of Nevada a lot more money than the federal government. Either way he is still a deadbeat rancher regardless of who he owes the money to.
    Bundy has been paying the Nevada fees all this time. He just hasn't been paying the BLM. Bundy's an idiot but I think there's something wrong with having to pay twice for the use of the same land. IMO he should have to pay either Nevada or the BLM, not both.

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