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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    First, if it were a US govt flag it would have to meet very specific parameters in accordance with US law. Very few flags in public use meet that. Second, it is the flag of the people of the united states...it represents the people and the nation, not the govt; the people that comprise the govt...not the government itself as an entity in and of itself. Lastly, every organ of the US govt has it's own flag....those are govt flags as they represent that particular dept...not the American people as a whole.

    But yeah, you don't get it.
    13 stripes (Colonies), 50 stars (states).....but it is not representative of the govt (political organization)?

    OK.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

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    13 stripes (Colonies), 50 stars (states).....but it is not representative of the govt (political organization)?

    OK.
    No. It's representative of the Nation and of the people.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No. It's representative of the Nation and of the people.
    it is the standard of the Union of States, the United States...of America...and DC is not represented.

    To bad.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    First, if it were a US govt flag it would have to meet very specific parameters in accordance with US law. Very few flags in public use meet that. Second, it is the flag of the people of the united states...it represents the people and the nation, not the govt; the people that comprise the govt...not the government itself as an entity in and of itself. Lastly, every organ of the US govt has it's own flag....those are govt flags as they represent that particular dept...not the American people as a whole.

    But yeah, you don't get it.
    I'm sure you get all unhinged at a yellow fringed flag...LOL
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    What a freakin' surprise, Cliven Bundy is a liar when he says "My rights are before the BLM even existed,"
    Wow, color me shocked that a government controlled mouthpiece MSM (ie: CBS ) would resort to media matters talking points, useful only for discrediting the target....laughably transparent.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow, color me shocked that a government controlled mouthpiece MSM (ie: CBS ) would resort to media matters talking points, useful only for discrediting the target....laughably transparent.

    Ah, so now the conspiracy goes to the evil "THEY". Media is controlled by them!

    Down the rabbit hole goes the conspiracy theorists..
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow, color me shocked that a government controlled mouthpiece MSM (ie: CBS ) would resort to media matters talking points, useful only for discrediting the target....laughably transparent.
    Well, that's gibberish. How dare people report his actual words?
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Ancestral rights are irrelevant.The Bundys do not own the property they were grazing thee cattle at and just because someone's ancestor used a place they do not own does not entitle their descendant to use it.
    Maybe ancestral rights ARE relevant. My father once took a piss in the mens room at a Stuckey's Restaurant up in Michigan. He was only there once, but he didn't like the food, so he never went back. Using Bundy's reasoning, since my father once took a piss at Stuckey's, I have the right to go there all I want and not pay for the food. LOL.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Cliven Bundy speaks:

    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

    “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
    Yep, there is your hero, the guy who thinks "negroes" would be happier as slaves.

    Get yourselves a new hero, the more we learn about this nutcase the worse it gets.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us...west.html?_r=1
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