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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You clearly know nothing about cattle owning. Herding or raising.
    So you are saying cattle ranches in other parts of the US feed their cattle on other people's land?
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    All beef are grass fed until they go to the feed lot. At the feed lot they are fed grain for a set amount of time and then slaughtered. That's why it's called a feed lot.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They originally homesteaded a ranch in 1877. Rights to water and grazing followed to other areas where the rancher moved to. What part of that dont you understand. Or, just for arguement. Lets say you are right, and they have been there since 1946. What difference does it make? He feels the charges are unconstitutional based on its a state rights issue and not a fed issue.
    Whoa there.. grazing rights don't "follow to other areas where the rancher move to"... that's not how they work.. especially with water.

    You have mentioned multiple times how the "blm has changed the rules".. I would like to see evidence of that. Bundy hasn't paid in years for land he has been grazing.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    All beef are grass fed until they go to the feed lot. At the feed lot they are fed grain for a set amount of time and then slaughtered. That's why it's called a feed lot.
    Not all beef are grass fed. Some operations go directly to milk and then transition to grain mixtures. usually the highest quality meat or veal operations.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Its called civil disobedience. Bet you were all behind the OWS scum that took over down town NYC.
    Not paying land usage fees for two decades is "civil dosobedience"?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you are saying cattle ranches in other parts of the US feed their cattle on other people's land?
    All the time.. I do...

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't get the reference.
    Senator Warren claimed minority status when applying to and working at Harvard in order to gain preferential treatment for years - apparently on the basis that women in her family had high cheeckbones and someone had once told her that somewhere back there one of her ancestors was a Cherokee.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You can always tell when righties are getting nervous over Sen. Warren--they start derailing any thread with lies about her personal history.
    nervous? No, I'd love to see Hillary have to fight off a real challenge.

    Furthermore, Warren actually impressed me recently. I think there is some definite room for a notable Republican or two to crossover and work with her on some fairly important legislation.

    Please continue to defend scofflaw Bundy and his militia cowards like this until election day.
    Naw, he's breaking the law. As we constantly have to remind our liberal friends, the rule of law is important.

    But I tell you what. How about as a matter of priorities we worry about deploying the SWAT teams oh, say, more border-ish than cow-ish, now that we are in agreement about the importance of the Rule of Law?

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I honestly couldn't care less about what you have a problem with or no sympathy for; you still have no right to graze on land that doesn't belong to you.
    Regardless of who the land belongs to or is managed by - this fact will remain: You don't have a right to graze on land that doesn't belong to you.
    You can keep repeating and highlighting that all you wish but, the taxpayers own that land.

    Last I heard the Bundys are not being prosecuted for tax evasion.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You can keep repeating and highlighting that all you wish but, the taxpayers own that land.

    Last I heard the Bundys are not being prosecuted for tax evasion.
    I'm going to go plant some corn in Central Park. I'm a taxpayer, after all.
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