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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    I have a major problem with the rules,regs, conditions set forth and for who they actually benefit unlike you people who think our FedGov is omnipotent.
    So we should be able to use public land for anything we want? I should be able to farm in Yellowstone?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That is our country's flag ...America ya know. Land of the free and the brave.

    Unlike what statists believe.
    Yeah exactly, "ours" not "yours".

    Your position is in the extremist minority, self styled, arm chair, "patriot" revolutionaries with delusional fantasies of glory, not at all indicative of the population at large.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Seems the tortoise and cows have coexisted so far. Might want to research agenda 21 a bit see what is really going on.
    Agenda 21? Stay off Infowars. That'll rot your brain.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You mean they stopped ranchers from grassing off of public land.


    The Bundy is raising grass fed beef. Most beef is grain fed. Bundy amounts to the dirty hippies who raise free range chickens and charging several bucks or more for a dozen eggs.So if you are buying beef from a regular grocery store it is grain fed.What the average person pays for beef is not being effected by closing public lands to grazing.
    All beef are grass fed until they go to the feed lot. At the feed lot they are fed grain for a set amount of time and then slaughtered. That's why it's called a feed lot.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Everyone is free to "Have a Major Problem".....but they are not free to break societal law based upon it, as the result would be Anarchy and Chaotic breakdown of said society. Just take a close look at the situation in discussion, Taken to a worst case scenario we end up with many dead and wounded citizens and a Government considered to be guilty of brutality, all as a result of people having a major problem and acting on it.
    That is sometimes how change occurs. (see history of America)
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So we should be able to use public land for anything we want? I should be able to farm in Yellowstone?
    We should have a sayso. At this point, we don't.

    Something you might want to consider...

    DEMOCRATS* AGAINST* U. N.* AGENDA* 21 - OK, So what is Agenda 21? And why should I care? Part 1
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    His rights did exist before the BLM, just like my rights existed before me.
    What?

    You had right to land before you were even born? I don't even recall a specific right to land in the Constitution either? And even if you do own land before a certain law or agency was established, since when do laws/agencies only created before you owned the land apply to you?

    Someone has an extremely misguided view of law and rights.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That is sometimes how change occurs. (see history of America)
    Yes it is...."Sometimes".

    (See history of America)

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What?

    You had right to land before you were even born? I don't even recall a specific right to land in the Constitution either? And even if you do own land before a certain law or agency was established, since when do laws/agencies only created before you owned the land apply to you?

    Someone has an extremely misguided view of law and rights.
    No one has rights to land. Read the BoR. But there are rights that exist before people are born, were you born in 1791?

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    as long as you understand that your rights do not exist untill you do.

    to you point on the rancher. His right to property can be denied with due process of law.[5th amendemnt] You may claim he has not yet recieved due process, but you can not claim he has unlimited and life-long right to property.
    But that is not what the G is claiming. They based much of their latest actions on a turtle. Which is a lie.

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