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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What flag does the U.S. Govt. use?

    Last time that I checked it was the stars and stripes.
    That doesn't make the "government" flag.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Or maybe a 400 lb American human who's spent a little too much time at McDonalds, eh?
    Sure, the tortoise seems to have survived all the above.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    WE ARE THE LANDLORDS! That's what this whole.thing is about.
    WE shouldn't be.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No, our rights exist. Period. His right to graze was there until they decided to change the rules and lie about the "endangered turtles". Thats when it really became not about rights but lies.
    as long as you understand that your rights do not exist untill you do.

    to you point on the rancher. His right to property can be denied with due process of law.[5th amendemnt] You may claim he has not yet recieved due process, but you can not claim he has unlimited and life-long right to property.


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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    WE shouldn't be.



    Anyone who doesn't like the present situation in the USA as it relates to public land needs to get to work re-writing the U.S. Constitution.

    I have zero sympathy for Mr. Bundy. He and anyone who 'thinks' like him needs to spend a few decades in a FEMA re-education camp in the USA's Southwestern desert region.
    Last edited by shrubnose; 04-23-14 at 08:06 AM.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It being "ours" doesn't give people the right to use it as they see fit. The Capitol Building is by definition ours. Can I set up a tent in the main lobby and live there? No. Your understanding of public property and what it entails is EXTREMELY misinformed or you're being disingenuous. Which is it?
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    I have a major problem with the rules,regs, conditions set forth and for who they actually benefit unlike you people who think our FedGov is omnipotent.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Seems the tortoise and cows have coexisted so far. Might want to research agenda 21 a bit see what is really going on.

    Oh now you've done it...injected facts into the debate.

    Exactly what is happening.
    Last edited by WCH; 04-23-14 at 08:50 AM.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
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    I have a major problem with the rules,regs, conditions set forth and for who they actually benefit unlike you people who think our FedGov is omnipotent.
    Everyone is free to "Have a Major Problem".....but they are not free to break societal law based upon it, as the result would be Anarchy and Chaotic breakdown of said society. Just take a close look at the situation in discussion, Taken to a worst case scenario we end up with many dead and wounded citizens and a Government considered to be guilty of brutality, all as a result of people having a major problem and acting on it.

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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If it's a state's rights issue as you say, Bundy should pay state's fees, $12 a head in Nevada, compared to $1.35 a head to the BLM .
    Portions of ghe BLM fees go to the state, country and the US treasury. Ths rest is 'misused' by the agency.
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    Re: Bundy's 'ancestral rights' come under scrutiny

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What flag does the U.S. Govt. use?

    Last time that I checked it was the stars and stripes.
    That is our country's flag ...America ya know. Land of the free and the brave.

    Unlike what statists believe.
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