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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If Obama had been a 4.0 student at columbia, I guarantee he would have made that fact public
    That's for sure. They just haven't been able to fabricate that one. I just want to know how a self admitted pothead that was just going through the paces at school got into Harvard. I think we can rule out good grades and intellect.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If his transcript is sealed, it tells me that we don't know anything about his grades there.

    You're trying to make a point that Obama couldn't have gotten in to Harvard without AA, correct?
    You may be right about that, or not. I don't know. So far, there is no proof showing that he couldn't have been admitted on his own. If he was an honor student after he got there, then that's an indication that he should have been able to get in on his own.
    so all the kids who flunk out of a top school shouldn't have been admitted? one was my first year suite mate at Yale

    1) first in his class with the highest GPA in the history of one of the most prestigious private schools in the USA
    2) 1600 SAT-he got that score at age 14
    3) won a national math championship that was open to anyone short of a PhD in Math
    4) was a world class "ultimate frisbee" player and missed the world record distance mark by a foot.

    Sadly the admissions office couldn't predict he was going to become a coke fiend the summer after he was admitted

    but I also know of students who were massive screw ups in college went to a third rate law school and ended up being the lawyer you'd hire if you wanted the very best.



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so all the kids who flunk out of a top school shouldn't have been admitted? one was my first year suite mate at Yale

    1) first in his class with the highest GPA in the history of one of the most prestigious private schools in the USA
    2) 1600 SAT-he got that score at age 14
    3) won a national math championship that was open to anyone short of a PhD in Math
    4) was a world class "ultimate frisbee" player and missed the world record distance mark by a foot.

    Sadly the admissions office couldn't predict he was going to become a coke fiend the summer after he was admitted

    but I also know of students who were massive screw ups in college went to a third rate law school and ended up being the lawyer you'd hire if you wanted the very best.

    Interesting.

    So, you've given up trying to back up t he idea that Barack Obama couldn't have been admitted to Harvard if he were white?
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Interesting.

    So, you've given up trying to back up t he idea that Barack Obama couldn't have been admitted to Harvard if he were white?
    No, there is no way obama could have been admitted to harvard with the resume he presented if he had been white



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No, there is no way obama could have been admitted to harvard with the resume he presented if he had been white
    You keep saying that, and you might be right.

    But you have shown no evidence that you are.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You keep saying that, and you might be right.

    But you have shown no evidence that you are.
    Wrong-I don't have evidence someone like you is willing to accept. I know it is true. I saw dozens of white males-classmates at Yale, lawyers I know, and kids in the classes where I was a teaching assistant or mentor turned down at Harvard with 3.8 or higher GPAs and 99th percentile board scores. Obama had neither credential.

    I also know that when a politician refuses to divulge something it is because the information won't help him. If obama had the grades that white males needed to get into HLS the year he went, he would be bragging about it because at minimum it would be in the 3.75 range and most likely 3.8-3.9



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Wrong-I don't have evidence someone like you is willing to accept. I know it is true. I saw dozens of white males-classmates at Yale, lawyers I know, and kids in the classes where I was a teaching assistant or mentor turned down at Harvard with 3.8 or higher GPAs and 99th percentile board scores. Obama had neither credential.

    I also know that when a politician refuses to divulge something it is because the information won't help him. If obama had the grades that white males needed to get into HLS the year he went, he would be bragging about it because at minimum it would be in the 3.75 range and most likely 3.8-3.9
    OK, and are grades the only factor for admittance to Harvard? I'd think that if they were, they'd only take 4.0 students, being as selective as they are.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Wrong-I don't have evidence someone like you is willing to accept. I know it is true. I saw dozens of white males-classmates at Yale, lawyers I know, and kids in the classes where I was a teaching assistant or mentor turned down at Harvard with 3.8 or higher GPAs and 99th percentile board scores. Obama had neither credential.

    I also know that when a politician refuses to divulge something it is because the information won't help him. If obama had the grades that white males needed to get into HLS the year he went, he would be bragging about it because at minimum it would be in the 3.75 range and most likely 3.8-3.9
    You think you saw. You were not in the room with any if the decision makers. And I gave shown you how it works and that without race considered at all, just between white males, other factors can put one with lower scores ahead of someone with higher scores. You don't address that, but just keep repeating what you THINK.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You think you saw. You were not in the room with any if the decision makers. And I gave shown you how it works and that without race considered at all, just between white males, other factors can put one with lower scores ahead of someone with higher scores. You don't address that, but just keep repeating what you THINK.
    logical deduction sort of escapes those who want to pretend their messiah is the master of the universe



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    logical deduction sort of escapes those who want to pretend their messiah is the master of the universe
    Seems like you are sore that obama got accepted for his credentials unlike romney because of his money. What about all the students who lost a spot because of romney and his Piles of cash?
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