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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a stupid question. what you do after you get in has no relevance on your application

    he didn't have the grades when he applied
    yet he evidently had the ability.

    and how do you know he didn't have the grades?
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Now you're leaping to superstar? You don't have to be a superstar, even to get into Harvard. The fact is, you have no evidence. It's just a narrative you want to believe.

    Btw, how good a student was Bush? Just to compare how you view these things.

    to get into Harvard Law as a white male you need be at the very top of your class at most universities. If you attended the very best colleges-Yale, Princeton, Amherst, Williams you still needed to be at least a magna cum laude

    in my era I only knew one white guy who got into Yale Law with less than Magna cum laude. That was steven Calabresi who was a cum Laude grad. But he

    1) had an 800 LSAT
    2) had been president of the Yale Political union
    3) and most importantly, nephew of Guido Calabresi-DEAN Guido Calabresi of the Yale Law School!



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    yet he evidently had the ability.

    and how do you know he didn't have the grades?
    his transcript is sealed from columbia-what does that tell you
    and Columbia posted its honors graduates. He wasn't one of them



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    to get into Harvard Law as a white male you need be at the very top of your class at most universities. If you attended the very best colleges-Yale, Princeton, Amherst, Williams you still needed to be at least a magna cum laude

    in my era I only knew one white guy who got into Yale Law with less than Magna cum laude. That was steven Calabresi who was a cum Laude grad. But he

    1) had an 800 LSAT
    2) had been president of the Yale Political union
    3) and most importantly, nephew of Guido Calabresi-DEAN Guido Calabresi of the Yale Law School!
    No, you really don't. 3) would be enough. That's why I brought up Bush.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    his transcript is sealed from columbia-what does that tell you
    and Columbia posted its honors graduates. He wasn't one of them
    No, being sealed at Columbia is not unusual.

    The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.
    In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.
    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    his transcript is sealed from columbia-what does that tell you
    and Columbia posted its honors graduates. He wasn't one of them
    No, being sealed at Columbia is not unusual.

    The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.
    In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.
    Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you really don't. 3) would be enough. That's why I brought up Bush.
    you are confused again. you are making stuff up based on what you hope the facts are. Bush went to the B school. Grades are far less important for that school. I know I was accepted into both the Law and the B school



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, being sealed at Columbia is not unusual.

    The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile or records of adoptions. None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.
    In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.
    Obama’s ‘Sealed’ Records
    semantics-Obama hasn't released them to public



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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused again. you are making stuff up based on what you hope the facts are. Bush went to the B school. Grades are far less important for that school. I know I was accepted into both the Law and the B school
    After graduating from Yale University in 1968 and Harvard Business School in 1975. . . .
    George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He got into both, right? From a "B" school.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    semantics-Obama hasn't released them to public
    As few have. Point, nothing unusual, and you have no evidence.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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