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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't think it's difficult to identify overt white on black racism at all.
    No one's under any obligation to be overt about their racism. So if a college picks a white student over a black student for racist reasons, and both students are equally qualified, how do you prove it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The same way you handle and deal with black on white racism, by holding it up to the light of day and showing it for what it is.
    I'll repeat the same question to you I asked Cephus: No one's under any obligation to be overt about their racism. So if a college picks a white student over a black student for racist reasons, and both students are equally qualified, how do you prove it?

    How do you "hold it up to the light of day?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Black on white or White on Black...one has to determin if the subtle workings can be held up to the light.

    so much racism goes undetected in its gentleness and subtlety.
    Yes, it does.

    And some of it is pretty obvious, yet ignored.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'll repeat the same question to you I asked Cephus: No one's under any obligation to be overt about their racism. So if a college picks a white student over a black student for racist reasons, and both students are equally qualified, how do you prove it?

    How do you "hold it up to the light of day?"
    You hold up the qualifications of not just two, but many, applicants. You show that there is a pattern of selecting one particular race despite equal qualifications. You ditch the affirmative action quotas that actually encourage the use of race in the acceptance process.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You hold up the qualifications of not just two, but many, applicants. You show that there is a pattern of selecting one particular race despite equal qualifications. You ditch the affirmative action quotas that actually encourage the use of race in the acceptance process.
    How do you determine how many are too little? What you are talking about is a tacit quota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    From you getting pissed about the revocation of AA.
    I do not know where you get that from as all my comments have been supportive of ending preferences and changing all admissions at all colleges to pure academic merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    While I don't think college sports needs to be removed from the admissions process, I wouldn't shed a tear if it was. But I do think that a large number of universities would fight it tooth and nail. And I think there would be a good chance that many universities would suffer in quality due to the decision, not improve.
    I agree with you that it brings in money and fame. I also agree that big schools would fight my proposal with all their might. But it is still the right thing to do just the same if we believe that the principle should admit only the best and brightest. Those not making into the elite schools would filter on down to the next level and so on.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, it does.

    And some of it is pretty obvious, yet ignored.
    I can't speak to what racism is ignored...

    Some people don't see racism as others do. Some people don't believe in racism exists at all. some see racism in everything.


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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    One way they could eliminate it is by not even asking what someone's race is on a college application.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    One way they could eliminate it is by not even asking what someone's race is on a college application.
    There are ways around that.

    If DeLaShequah Watkins is applying to college, asking her race is rather redundant.

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