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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post! This is also why so many people choose to emigrate to this country - to have the chance to improve their lives over what they left behind! I'm thinking of the millions that came through Ellis Island who did just that - and my grandparents from Eastern Europe were among them! They weren't looking for handouts, and none were offered to them, but they worked hard, learned the language, became citizens, and succeeded! I'm proud of every one who did, because it wasn't easy. There were no food stamps and other benefits back then, but they persevered and made it on their own merits!

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

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    High court upholds Mich. affirmative action ban | The Detroit News

    "The Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld Michiganís ban on using race as a factor in college admissions.

    The justices said in a 6-2 ruling that Michigan voters had the right to change their state constitution in 2006 to prohibit public colleges and universities from taking account of race in admissions decisions. The justices said a lower federal court was wrong to set aside the change as discriminatory."


    Students of all races can now know that they got in to Michigan schools on their merit.

    This is good news.Affirmative action should be banned period.Someone should get in based on their own merit, not because of a mandatory quota.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is good news.Affirmative action should
    be banned period.Someone should get in based on their own merit, not because of a mandatory quota.
    It allows schools to chose unfortunately.

    And there will be schools that will continue to use race and gender ss part of their selection process.

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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's great, but since I was referring to the difficulty of identifying and prosecuting white on black racism what you're saying is beside the point. Affirmative Action was created to address that point, though I think we can all agree that in execution it was always faulty from the start. So how would you identify white on black racism when it happens, or are you too going to say that being somewhat less common than the Loch Ness Monster it's pointless to even discuss?
    I don't think it's difficult to identify overt white on black racism at all. Those cases that we find ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The same goes with black on white racism or black on Hispanic racism or Hispanic on black racism, etc. The problem is, we have large segments of the population who are willing to entirely ignore black on <fill in the blank> racism and only focus on white on black racism.

    I say it's all equally as bad and nobody deserves a pass, ever.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Harvard fields some outstanding athletics programs. In fact, at last count, they had over 40 Division 1 teams which I think is still the highest in the country. They hold their student athletes to a higher standard than most schools, both when they are incoming and while they are there.
    That is terrific. But lets face it - they certainly are not on a par with the programs of Michigan or Alabama or USC or other big colleges who actively recruit and give full scholarships. Their rep is based on academics - not athletics no matter how respectable they may be in their own right.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Fantabulous. How does one deal with white on black racism? How does one identify and handle it?
    The same way you handle and deal with black on white racism, by holding it up to the light of day and showing it for what it is.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm good with that. I got into and graduated from U of M on academic merit.

    I know what you're attempting though. There should be more credence given to someone who was class treasurer or science award winner than just being black.

    Look at what someone does instead of what they are. Even someone like you can understand that.
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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The same way you handle and deal with black on white racism, by holding it up to the light of day and showing it for what it is.
    Black on white or White on Black...one has to determin if the subtle workings can be held up to the light.

    so much racism goes undetected in its gentleness and subtlety.


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    Re: High Court Upholds Michigan Affirmative Action Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is terrific. But lets face it - they certainly are not on a par with the programs of Michigan or Alabama or USC or other big colleges who actively recruit and give full scholarships. Their rep is based on academics - not athletics no matter how respectable they may be in their own right.
    Oh I agree. They hold their athletes to a high standard. The super-athletic powerhouses tend not to. Which is why so many of them in Alabama and the others you mention major in basket weaving and come out of college not knowing how to add 2 plus 6.

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