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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    Our entire judicial system is based on the doctrine of innocent unless and until proven guilty by a proper court. So all these drone attacks target INNOCENT people in countries we are not at war with. People are being declared terrorists or insurgents, then targeted for murder. This is classic guilty by accusation (judge, jury and executioner). "Collateral damage" is a cover word for murdering innocent men, women and children, just like "enhanced interrogation" is a cover word for torture. This is a war crime and genocide (see treaties).
    Our judicial system only extends to cases under the constitution. Foreign enemies do not get the same protections. And we are at war with terrorism wherever that may be. I havent seen any treaties or laws that would prohibit us from defending ourselves by killing enemies in their homes. In fact the UN charter allows a state to defend itself. The ICC even stated that collateral damage was not a crime.

    Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime http://www2.icc-cpi.int/NR/rdonlyres...ruary_2006.pdf
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    Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations
    Genocide is ridiculous of course because we arent targeting a genetic makeup of people.

    The law simply isnt on your side.

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    Using armed drones may be part of war but using them on civilians and/or in countries where there has been no declaration of war is clearly a war crime.
    A war crime and a violation of at least the spirit of the US Constitution.

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Our judicial system only extends to cases under the constitution. Foreign enemies do not get the same protections. And we are at war with terrorism wherever that may be. I havent seen any treaties or laws that would prohibit us from defending ourselves by killing enemies in their homes. In fact the UN charter allows a state to defend itself. The ICC even stated that collateral damage was not a crime.





    Genocide is ridiculous of course because we arent targeting a genetic makeup of people.

    The law simply isnt on your side.
    We're at war with terrorism?

    Heck, I thought we were at war with poverty and drug use. Oh well.....

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    We're at war with terrorism?

    Heck, I thought we were at war with poverty and drug use. Oh well.....
    Not officially. The war on terror is official though, and simply self defense.

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Not officially. The war on terror is official though, and simply self defense.
    Nonsense. The Global War On Terror is a fraud of epic proportions and a hoax upon the American people.

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Nonsense. The Global War On Terror is a fraud of epic proportions and a hoax upon the American people.
    Did you forget for a moment that you are in one of the legitimate forums and not your conspiracy theory home?
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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Did you forget for a moment that you are in one of the legitimate forums and not your conspiracy theory home?
    Did you forget for a moment that you are not talking to a gullible child?

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Not officially. The war on terror is official though, and simply self defense.
    No it's not. It's an offensive, occupational war. Any claim to self defense flew out the window when we left Afghanistan to invade other countries. Now it's just forever war so we can have our two minutes of hate.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Did you forget for a moment that you are not talking to a gullible child?
    No, I remembered such.


    Your ability to gobble up any silly conspiracy theory designed to appeal to children lacking critical thinking skills is right up there with the best of them.
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    Re: Court orders U.S. to release memo on drones, al-Awlaki killing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    The Nuremburg Principles for one, that the US is a signatory to:

    Principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal, 1950

    The Geneva Conventions for another:

    Geneva Conventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    WHERE in those treaties does it say that droning irregular combatants is ILLEGAL?

    See, that's what I'm asking you.

    I don't need to be directed to an assorted list of international conventions on war.

    I can easily Google that.

    You're saying that "it is clearly a war crime".

    Okay, show me EXACTLY where it's so clear.

    Thanks.
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