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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Really? What "crimes" has Bundy committed??
    He's been stealing from the United States for 20 years and has been making seditious statements about doing it.
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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Patriotism is the love of one's country, not the love of government. Statists tend to muddle the two.
    Especially the administration that first passed the Patriot Act.
    Who are your statists, since you're accusing ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Especially the administration that first passed the Patriot Act.
    Who are your statists, since you're accusing ?
    Should be obvious, even to you. Anyone who puts their love of government over their love of country.
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    I don't believe anyone in the USA loves their government more than their country.
    In fact, this is just more false equivalency from the crowd that wants to claim the Patriot card .
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Should be obvious, even to you. Anyone who puts their love of government over their love of country.
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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I don't believe anyone in the USA loves their government more than their country.
    In fact, this is just more false equivalency from the crowd that wants to claim the Patriot card .
    Who is claiming the Patriot card?
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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by sedan View Post
    No, this is about bureaucrats in the BLM speculating whether to make a recommendation that the President exercise a power that he already has.

    On a scale of 1 to 10, this particular conspiracy theory gets a -3.
    Baloney, the way the BLM is using federal lands is unconstitutional period. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.

    The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise or any other whim they may have.

    The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land. For your convenience I have provided the wording from our Constitution.
    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--

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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    He's been stealing from the United States for 20 years and has been making seditious statements about doing it.
    Has he been charged with any crimes??

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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Has he been charged with any crimes??
    To my knowledge, no. That doesn't mean he's not stealing. He's been using government property with absolutely no intention of paying for it. That's theft for all practical purposes.
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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Baloney, the way the BLM is using federal lands is unconstitutional period. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.

    The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise or any other whim they may have.

    The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land. For your convenience I have provided the wording from our Constitution.

    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--
    You've misinterpreted the text. Clause 17 gives Congress control of certain parcels of land acquired for certain purposes but nowhere prohibits acquisition for other reasons.
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    Re: BLM document reveals big change

    Nothing new here, Clintoon locked up huge portions of Utah with the stroke of a pen.

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