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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Rail Transport of Crude Oil Increases as Pipeline Falls Short
    More than 99 percent of hazardous material shipments reach their destinations without spills, according to the Association of American Railroads. Yet more crude oil was spilled in American rail incidents in 2013 than in the previous four decades, according to a McClatchy Newspapers analysis of federal data. The data for Texas shows 62 crude oil spills from trains over the last decade. Forty-two, or 68 percent, have occurred since 2012
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/us...hort.html?_r=0

    so I gotta wonder, is rail a better answer? The article says crude gets there faster, but an oil train accident is a major disaster ( 47 people killed in the last big one).

    Seem to me if the companies pay the pipeline costs, and the refineries in the Gulf are expanding..this is a better way then rail.

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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Why is it our— the people of the USA —concern to ship Canadian oil via land to refineries that are not owned by the people of the US at all.

    Let Cananda worry about shipping their oil over their land to the west. It can be refined in West Coast refineries.


    I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

    The oil is currently being shipped from Canada to the Gulf.
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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Exactly. Make a decision. Either yes or no. Either way, I don't really care much because I don't personally think this one pipeline will make that much difference. I'm just tired of hearing about it.
    Me too. Just make a decision and move on.

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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    just how much more time? 5 years isn't enough time to make a decision?. I guess not - not till we are safely past the midterms
    What does Obama have against low gas prices???
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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Me too. Just make a decision and move on.
    Your asking for a miracle.
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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    just how much more time? 5 years isn't enough time to make a decision?. I guess not - not till we are safely past the midterms
    This is what Obama meant by hope and change.

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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What does Obama have against low gas prices???


    He obviously does not care about low gas prices or anything else that might benefit Americans.

    He has only one goal and that is to campaign and collect money to do so.

    This does not make him unique among politicians. He is, however, better at it than most.
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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    just how much more time? 5 years isn't enough time to make a decision?. I guess not - not till we are safely past the midterms
    If you respect property rights then you should oppose this pipeline.
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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you respect property rights then you should oppose this pipeline.
    Why would anyone oppose it if the landowners are happily receiving money for the right of way.

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    Re: Administration again delays Keystone pipeline decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why would anyone oppose it if the landowners are happily receiving money for the right of way.
    If land owners were happily receiving money then the companies wouldn't be using eminent domain to seize that property.

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