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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    B.S. the cleanest way is to not transport some other country's multinational coporation's garbage at all. This pipeline, like all pipelines will leak. They all leak. This one while running through the water supply of 13 states. Another note... this is tar SANDS oil. It is liquid sandpaper. It will leak and it will leak faster than any other pipeline. That fluid sandpaper will destroy the joints and the pipe itself in record time.

    But just keep backing imminent domain like a good conservative... for 20 jobs.
    Yeah, good thing we don't have any petroleum pipelines here in the U.S.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    It seems like a dozen Dem Senators are not too happy with Obama right now:

    Nearly a dozen Senate Democrats, including five up for re-election this year, are pressing President Barack Obama to approve the Keystone XL pipeline, and they say they want a decision by the end of next month.

    Most Republicans support the pipeline, but the 11 Democrats who wrote a letter to Mr. Obama urging him to approve the project deliberately made it a one party-effort. While a set of bipartisan signatures can be a powerful thing in the art of Washington letter-writing, these lawmakers clearly want to accentuate the pressure Mr. Obama faces from his own party on this issue.
    Eleven Democrats Push Obama to Approve Keystone - Washington Wire - WSJ

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    This pipeline will not supply any oil to the US at all. All the oil that is to pass through it will be for foreign consumption. The only reason the US wants it is to prevent the Chinese from controlling it. The jobs it creates will be limited and many short-lived.

    This has nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with foreign policy. Do not fall for the talking points from either side, this pipeline is about controlling the flow of oil to other nations and becoming somewhat Putin like in our power of controlling the flow of energy.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    This pipeline will not supply any oil to the US at all. All the oil that is to pass through it will be for foreign consumption. The only reason the US wants it is to prevent the Chinese from controlling it. The jobs it creates will be limited and many short-lived.

    This has nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with foreign policy. Do not fall for the talking points from either side, this pipeline is about controlling the flow of oil to other nations and becoming somewhat Putin like in our power of controlling the flow of energy.

    incorrect

    This all about Obama and how this plays to the radical left vtoing block and playcating the EPA wingnuts... nothing more..period

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    incorrect

    This all about Obama and how this plays to the radical left vtoing block and playcating the EPA wingnuts... nothing more..period
    While his putting off the approval is indeed about politics, your Obama demonizing is misguided in the underlying purpose of the pipeline approval. However, I feel you are probably more concerned with saying negative things about Obama.....

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    This pipeline will not supply any oil to the US at all. All the oil that is to pass through it will be for foreign consumption. The only reason the US wants it is to prevent the Chinese from controlling it. The jobs it creates will be limited and many short-lived.

    This has nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with foreign policy. Do not fall for the talking points from either side, this pipeline is about controlling the flow of oil to other nations and becoming somewhat Putin like in our power of controlling the flow of energy.
    The US does not make much anymore, refining Oil is one of the few manufacturing functions
    we still have. Keystone Oil we be refined into products to be sold outside the US.
    The Jobs will be in the Oil pipeline,refining, and shipping finished product areas.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    B.S. the cleanest way is to not transport some other country's multinational coporation's garbage at all. This pipeline, like all pipelines will leak. They all leak. This one while running through the water supply of 13 states. Another note... this is tar SANDS oil. It is liquid sandpaper. It will leak and it will leak faster than any other pipeline. That fluid sandpaper will destroy the joints and the pipe itself in record time.

    But just keep backing imminent domain like a good conservative... for 20 jobs.
    20 jobs? What planet do you live on?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    While his putting off the approval is indeed about politics, your Obama demonizing is misguided in the underlying purpose of the pipeline approval. However, I feel you are probably more concerned with saying negative things about Obama.....
    well considering who Obama is .. he deserves nothing but scorn and ridicule.. impeachment God Willing

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The US does not make much anymore, refining Oil is one of the few manufacturing functions
    we still have. Keystone Oil we be refined into products to be sold outside the US.
    The Jobs will be in the Oil pipeline,refining, and shipping finished product areas.
    I am not saying there will not be some jobs, but we are not talking about building any new refineries to process this oil. Thus, it will not create some miracle relief for the unemployment numbers. In the past few decades, the idea has been floated of adding some new refineries and the oil and gas industry indicated that they were not in favor as the increased gas production would cause too severe of a price decrease in gasoline and hurt profits.

    So, yes the pipeline will need to be built and some will be needed to keep the pipeline maintained. And some new positions at the existing refinery may be added, but it will not be near what many on this thread are hoping for realistically. Again, the main point of US control of this pipeline lies in the key word control. I agree with this principle and idea. Any leverage is good leverage in the foreign landscape now days and being able cut-off Chinese gas supplies may one day come in as a handy tool.

    I just wish the government would be upfront with the American people that this is a weapon that may be used in the future, and not promise lots of jobs that will never materialize, at least not in meaningful numbers.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am not saying there will not be some jobs, but we are not talking about building any new refineries to process this oil. Thus, it will not create some miracle relief for the unemployment numbers. In the past few decades, the idea has been floated of adding some new refineries and the oil and gas industry indicated that they were not in favor as the increased gas production would cause too severe of a price decrease in gasoline and hurt profits.

    So, yes the pipeline will need to be built and some will be needed to keep the pipeline maintained. And some new positions at the existing refinery may be added, but it will not be near what many on this thread are hoping for realistically. Again, the main point of US control of this pipeline lies in the key word control. I agree with this principle and idea. Any leverage is good leverage in the foreign landscape now days and being able cut-off Chinese gas supplies may one day come in as a handy tool.

    I just wish the government would be upfront with the American people that this is a weapon that may be used in the future, and not promise lots of jobs that will never materialize, at least not in meaningful numbers.
    The pipeline is being built, as we type, I can see a section of it still above ground outside my office.
    The existing refineries have more capacity to process than they are currently using.
    The additional Oil will require hundreds more direct jobs, and several thousand secondary jobs.
    Turning raw material into finished product, has always been good for the economy,
    In the case of oil, the market is there and growing, we just need more raw material.
    The really good news, is the same refineries that turn oil into fuel, can make fuel from scratch,
    when oil becomes too expensive.

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