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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Actually you are contending that illegal immigrants are not "indentured servants". This denial of fact derives only from your ideology.
    Are you suggesting that illegal immigrants actually choose "indentured servitude" as a way of life, and that's why they sneak into this Country instead of staying at home? That's an unusual way of explaining things.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    None of our legal protections apply to them while all of the persecutions do. When you are considered a crook when you haven't done anything at all other than just for breathing anywhere in the country... that constant threat of one's existance makes it rather indentured... especially when that can and will be held over your head by your employer. Parse all you want.
    Which is why I'm for open borders, but it's not indenture. Beyond that there's no evidence of any corporate interest in creating the situation. Your entire scenario is created by your ideology.
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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The way I am looking at November, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota seem to be a safe bet to go Republican, that leaves 3 seats to go for control. Add Louisiana and Arkansas, you are down to one. North Carolina, Hagan the incumbent Dem is trailing Tillis by a couple of points, but is still a toss up. Alaska, Dem Begich is in for a fight and is trailing Treadwell, but ahead of Sullivan and Miller. How Alaska goes may depend on how nasty the Republican primary is between those three.

    Yeah, Sullivan and his union are none too happy. So the question there is how important is the pipeline to them? Is it important enough for most of those in Sullivan's union will vote Republican this November or is it just one of many issues which may not have an effect on how the rank and file vote? On this there is no way to tell.

    But personally, with 186,000 miles of oil pipelines in the U.S. already, what is the big deal of another 2-3,000 miles worth added to it. I think the pipeline is a much safer transportation mode than truck or train. Besides for the environmentalist, there is no greenhouse gases emitted from a pipeline like there are from trucks and trains. That oil is going to be moved from Canada to Texas and Louisiana anyway. I figure you might as well use the safest method.
    I think you have this right all the way around.
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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I think you have this right all the way around.
    I appreciate it Jack.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The way I am looking at November, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota seem to be a safe bet to go Republican, that leaves 3 seats to go for control. Add Louisiana and Arkansas, you are down to one. North Carolina, Hagan the incumbent Dem is trailing Tillis by a couple of points, but is still a toss up. Alaska, Dem Begich is in for a fight and is trailing Treadwell, but ahead of Sullivan and Miller. How Alaska goes may depend on how nasty the Republican primary is between those three.

    Yeah, Sullivan and his union are none too happy. So the question there is how important is the pipeline to them? Is it important enough for most of those in Sullivan's union will vote Republican this November or is it just one of many issues which may not have an effect on how the rank and file vote? On this there is no way to tell.

    But personally, with 186,000 miles of oil pipelines in the U.S. already, what is the big deal of another 2-3,000 miles worth added to it. I think the pipeline is a much safer transportation mode than truck or train. Besides for the environmentalist, there is no greenhouse gases emitted from a pipeline like there are from trucks and trains. That oil is going to be moved from Canada to Texas and Louisiana anyway. I figure you might as well use the safest method.
    It sure seems from the howling we're hearing from the environmentalists that they are against any more greenhouse gases be emitted, or we're doomed! They appear to prefer we all have windmills on top of our vehicles or something, but that doesn't wash. Since the States involved are all on board with the safety part of it, and since the pipeline will provide new jobs for their areas, I see no reason why to delay, except for the fact that unions have been very vocal in support of the pipeline! It will be very interesting to see who wins this fight, since the Dems don't want to lose either voting block. Poor BHO - which way to go on this political hot potato? :

    Greetings, Pero.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Are you suggesting that illegal immigrants actually choose "indentured servitude" as a way of life, and that's why they sneak into this Country instead of staying at home? That's an unusual way of explaining things.

    Greetings, PoweRob.
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    Well the choice is also one from hell. Do I put myself into that situation to feed my family or not? Not really a choice.
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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Which is why I'm for open borders, but it's not indenture. Beyond that there's no evidence of any corporate interest in creating the situation. Your entire scenario is created by your ideology.
    Just hand out work visas like candy. Then they are legal and taxable and also put into the social security and medicare funds. Then apply all wage laws to them as well that way citizens have a fighting chance to get a job rather than pitting them against those working for below minimum wage... which the corporate world wants and your ideology seems to deny.
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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Hola Polagra.

    Well the choice is also one from hell. Do I put myself into that situation to feed my family or not? Not really a choice.
    How about putting pressure on foreign governments to allow more freedom and less corruption in order that people won't have to uproot themselves from their homelands in order to properly feed their families. It seems to me that the US gets a lot of blame for not letting people in when the real responsibility lies at the source of the problem.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    None of our legal protections apply to them while all of the persecutions do. When you are considered a crook when you haven't done anything at all other than just for breathing anywhere in the country... that constant threat of one's existance makes it rather indentured... especially when that can and will be held over your head by your employer. Parse all you want.

    This country has a shortage of jobs the way it is, and nobody asked these people to sneak into our country in the first place. To add insult to injury politicians will want to make them legal and then give them the right to bring more of their needy families here. I might sound hard hearted but you take care of your own first.

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    Re: US delays Review of Keystone XL Pipeline.....

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yes. Let's do more...

    [INDENT]The statistics

    As we all know, what shows up in the media is not necessarily representative of the situation at large. For a clearer picture, we turn to the Pipeline & Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.
    Hmmm, the fool.com, eh? You use them as a source much?

    Seems appropriate.

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