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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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BmanMcfly said:
Well, you're following all the talking points to the letter, so, what evidence have you given to show otherwise, or that you put any individual analytical thought beyond what you've been told?

It's the mainstream position that is falling apart, but because they sing their song and dance the loudest and in unison, they maintain this illusion, when the reality is that the mainstream media is a dying dinosaur that still acts like it has full control of the narrative.
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Dude that may be what you think of me but it isnt reality by a long shot. But thanx for sharing it, you actually are proving my point.




Here's proof that you have been fed bs, the Leo were sitting in a kill zone making threats, after weeks of beating people up, tasering them, siccing dogs on them, and the blm was aiming guns at a group of unarmed people... If these people were intent on being violent, they would have struck a first blow for sure. (To be killed minutes later by the backup, but still)

Instead they stood up, and said we are getting those cows back and they were not going to leave so they'd have to shoot everyone.
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You seem confused between your opinion and actual proof.

Why couldnt the Bundy's and their supporters just wait till the BLM were done? If they had a legal case they could have taken the BLM on in the courts. But we all know that they have no case. At any rate had the Bundy's not been where they were the BLM wouldnt have tazed anyone. BTW the BLM never beat anyone up that day, you are just making another dishonest claim.


Again, you said that it could only be a MSM source, well, you didn't SAY that was all you would accept, but by product of elimination that was the only source acceptable... The audio is there, but it won't be from a source you would accept, therefore you won't accept it even if you hear it for yourself... Yet, you are the reasonable one in the discussion. Think about that for a second.
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I would actually prefer raw footage over any news network including independent ones. But if it is on a conspiracy site then its entirely invalid. Conspiracy sites have a 100% track record of falsely representing things. WHat is telling is that your information is only available on conspiracy sites and nowhere else. Why is that? Is it because it is fake?

But since you cant share your source then I have to point out that your claim is bull****.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Dude that may be what you think of me but it isnt reality by a long shot. But thanx for sharing it, you actually are proving my point.




You seem confused between your opinion and actual proof.

Why couldnt the Bundy's and their supporters just wait till the BLM were done? If they had a legal case they could have taken the BLM on in the courts. But we all know that they have no case. At any rate had the Bundy's not been where they were the BLM wouldnt have tazed anyone. BTW the BLM never beat anyone up that day, you are just making another dishonest claim.
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Ok, look at the documents that tied the Reid family to the bundy ranch to the energy deal with the Chinese. .. I don't mean the whitewash on slopes but the documents that the blm want and got removed from the Internet (as best they could).

Then tell me you are still as certain about the legitimate position of the government on this one.


I would actually prefer raw footage over any news network including independent ones. But if it is on a conspiracy site then its entirely invalid. Conspiracy sites have a 100% track record of falsely representing things. WHat is telling is that your information is only available on conspiracy sites and nowhere else. Why is that? Is it because it is fake?

But since you cant share your source then I have to point out that your claim is bull****.
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Not can't, won't. .. The video exists on youtube, find them and you're not having to take my word for anything. ..

Remember, the audio of the specific threats is bad... picking up a loudspeaker on a small phone mic is not going to be easy to hear.
 
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Peter King said:
Maybe he was just posing for a photo shoot for his buddies from the media, but lets be honest, just because he did not have a clip in the gun right there and then on that exact moment when he was being photographed does not mean that he did not have plenty with him.
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That rifle doesn't even accept clips.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
(the guy that you said had no magazine in place, what no sorry for that mistake?)
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I said he had no clip in place, and he doesn't. That rifle doesn't accept clips, it accepts magazines. If that rifle accepted clips it would be clear as day as to rather or not the rifle were loaded.
 
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Jerry said:
That rifle doesn't even accept clips.
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You could be right, I do not know. I do not like guns and would not own one even if it were legal here to have guns. But if it did not accept clips it could have been armed and ready to shoot?
 
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Peter King said:
You could be right, I do not know. I do not like guns and would not own one even if it were legal here to have guns. But if it did not accept clips it could have been armed and ready to shoot?
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It could have been, and imo likely was, but good luck proving that in court.
 
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Jerry said:
It could have been, and imo likely was, but good luck proving that in court.
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If they wanted to arrest and prosecute him they should have arrested him on the spot, now that opportunity is gone because it cannot be proved but maybe he can be prosecuted for aiming a gun at legal representatives of the government? I think he is playing with his life because people have been shot for less.
 
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Peter King said:
If they wanted to arrest and prosecute him they should have arrested him on the spot, now that opportunity is gone because it cannot be proved but maybe he can be prosecuted for aiming a gun at legal representatives of the government? I think he is playing with his life because people have been shot for less.
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There again, you have to prove he was aiming the gun at anyone and not just off in the distance for the photo. Any half-way decent lawyer can cast a shadow of a doubt on that, and would take a bit more than your basic photo-shop to prove.

All of this, of course, goes back to rather or not he was engaged in 'armed resistance'. Common sense says he was but you can't get a criminal conviction on common sense, you have to prove it.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
A quick look at his facebook page reveals that Eric Parker ..... is a ancient aliens/new world order agenda 21/and about every crazy ass conspiracy nut type of guy. My money is on him having not only a round chambered but that the magazine was full and he probably kept checking if it was full over and over again. ANd he probably had a hard on and fantasized about shooting those evil new world order BLM guys that were in his sights.
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God help us all if we are to be judged by the content of our Facebook pages.
 
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BmanMcfly said:
Ok, look at the documents that tied the Reid family to the bundy ranch to the energy deal with the Chinese. .. I don't mean the whitewash on slopes but the documents that the blm want and got removed from the Internet (as best they could).

Then tell me you are still as certain about the legitimate position of the government on this one.
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Let me guess these documents are on conspiracy sites? But since someone has said documents why dont they take all parties involved to court? But then conspiracy theorists never do such things.



Not can't, won't. .. The video exists on youtube, find them and you're not having to take my word for anything. ..

Remember, the audio of the specific threats is bad... picking up a loudspeaker on a small phone mic is not going to be easy to hear.
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I found your video lol. There isnt any audio, maybe there was but there isnt now. But anyways it is posted by the Alex Jones site. The recording was by a employee of Alex Jones. SO I see why you were reluctant to post a link now. I see no more reason to discuss it.
 
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Jerry said:
God help us all if we are to be judged by the content of our Facebook pages.
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Is that all that you got out of my post? Nothing about anything, just a reaction to what you deemed to be judgement of this guy based on his likes on facebook? Ok then good day!
 
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Jerry said:
I said he had no clip in place, and he doesn't. That rifle doesn't accept clips, it accepts magazines. If that rifle accepted clips it would be clear as day as to rather or not the rifle were loaded.
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Yes I called a magazine a clip, so shoot me. But then why didnt you just say that instead of all that other stuff? You know that stuff about there not being proof that the rifle was loaded?
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Is that all that you got out of my post? Nothing about anything, just a reaction to what you deemed to be judgement of this guy based on his likes on facebook? Ok then good day!
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What, that this guy is a nut? I and many others have already acknowledged that many times. That I think all these 'militia' people are nuts doesn't mean you can prove any of them (other than Bundy) are committing any crimes.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
But then why didnt you just say that instead of all that other stuff?
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Copy of The Question Behind The Question By: John G. Miller by Ryan McHale on Prezi

If you're going to accuse a man of a serious crime, you should have your facts straight.
 
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Moot said:
Then stop telling us about your Photoshop photo if you can't bring yourself to show anyone else.
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That's the response i expected from you. Well done.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Let me guess these documents are on conspiracy sites? But since someone has said documents why dont they take all parties involved to court? But then conspiracy theorists never do such things.
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Why ? The neat thing about the Internet is that copies were made of the documents before the originals were shoved down the memory hole.

Beyond that, you have no idea how many FOIA orders and lawsuits have been filed to get information on a variety of different subjects. That's not really necessary when the documents are out there already.

found your video lol. There isnt any audio, maybe there was but there isnt now. But anyways it is posted by the Alex Jones site. The recording was by a employee of Alex Jones. SO I see why you were reluctant to post a link now. I see no more reason to discuss it.
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You found a video... If it's the one where he's video ing his phone conversation, then no, that's not the same one. It's part of a video from the day of the stand down, and you can hear it in the background audio... I figure it'll be harder to find as newer related videos bury it deeper... it's there though.
 
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MACS-24 said:
That's the response i expected from you. Well done.
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Should I have been shocked that you refused to post the Photoshop evidence that you've based your opinion on? Was it because you don't know how or are you just lazy?
 
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Jerry said:
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Copy of The Question Behind The Question By: John G. Miller by Ryan McHale on Prezi

If you're going to accuse a man of a serious crime, you should have your facts straight.
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WHat is there to accuse the photos say enough. There is a man with a firearm that for all appearances looks loaded and pointed at a crowd of people. By Nevada state law he is guilty of a crime by those photos alone. It isnt a accusation it is a known fact, whether you accept it or not I dont care.
 
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BmanMcfly said:
Why ? The neat thing about the Internet is that copies were made of the documents before the originals were shoved down the memory hole.

Beyond that, you have no idea how many FOIA orders and lawsuits have been filed to get information on a variety of different subjects. That's not really necessary when the documents are out there already.



You found a video... If it's the one where he's video ing his phone conversation, then no, that's not the same one. It's part of a video from the day of the stand down, and you can hear it in the background audio... I figure it'll be harder to find as newer related videos bury it deeper... it's there though.
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Well then keep the video a secret I dont care enough to look that much for something that is most likely fake anyways.
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
WHat is there to accuse the photos say enough. There is a man with a firearm that for all appearances looks loaded and pointed at a crowd of people. By Nevada state law he is guilty of a crime by those photos alone. It isnt a accusation it is a known fact, whether you accept it or not I dont care.
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He was found guilty? Link?
 
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FreedomFromAll said:
Well then keep the video a secret I dont care enough to look that much for something that is most likely fake anyways.
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Like you would believe it, no, it's there, but I can't find the one that captured the audio anymore either... It's been buried under newer videos that mostly wind up being commentaries.

Whether or not you believe, the blm was threatening to shoot people... Is it really that much of a stretch after the people that they beat up, set dogs on people, tasered them, and tried telling them that they had no free speech?

For the sake of argument let's say those threats were not made... The blm were the aggressors, and those armed people only served as a deterrent.

Believe it that if they were completely unarmed that the blm would have attacked, either lethally or not.
 
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BmanMcfly said:
Like you would believe it, no, it's there, but I can't find the one that captured the audio anymore either... It's been buried under newer videos that mostly wind up being commentaries.

Whether or not you believe, the blm was threatening to shoot people... Is it really that much of a stretch after the people that they beat up, set dogs on people, tasered them, and tried telling them that they had no free speech?

For the sake of argument let's say those threats were not made... The blm were the aggressors, and those armed people only served as a deterrent.

Believe it that if they were completely unarmed that the blm would have attacked, either lethally or not.
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Sorry but I dont believe that the audio actually exists.

And your sensationalist opinions are not even relevant.
 
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Jerry said:
He was found guilty? Link?
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I didnt even say that he was found guilty. I said that that under Nevada state law (the one that I linked) the photo clearly shows that he was breaking the law.

Are you denying that the law that I linked exists?

The guy in the photo below is committing a crime in the state of Nevada. The law actually exists and the photo shows this guy doing exactly what the law prohibits.
No matter how you spin it that is what is going on in that photo.

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You did say so, right here:
FreedomFromAll said:
By Nevada state law he is guilty of a crime by those photos alone.
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He's not guilty of a crime until he's convicted in court.

You *think* he's guilty but your opinion doesn't decide if he's *actually* guilty.

You would do well to learn the diference. Has he been arrested? Has he been charged? I'm sure DP would enjoy a thread on that if he were.
 
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