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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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polgara said:
:agreed: Why is this being hyped and mischaracterized by Reid? And why is it okay to tase people who object to having their possessions - in this case cattle - taken from them? What is the reason behind this?
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Given the dangerous clown role Reid has adopted for himself, I think it's very possible he's looking to provoke a violent action by someone so he can say they are typical Tea Party.
These are desperate times for the Democrat Party.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
He was at the ready with the threat of gunfire...covering the proceedings as a threat to federal officers.
Everyone and anyone who is rational can see that.
PLEASE continue to defend his posture. It clearly puts you on the side of a terrorist.
Keep it up. You are losing your argument in leaps and bounds.
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There's nothing illegal about "being ready". That's pretty much the point of the second amendment.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Intimidation;

to make timid or fearful : frighten; especially : to compel or deter by or as if by threats



It's plain to see you don't get it.



What Reid said was not directed at Bundy, he was talking about his gun toting supporters.
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Again, you and others supporting Bundy in this thread don't get it.

When people show up to stage a peaceful protest, they shouldn't be showing up with firearms, which were meant to intimidate and coerce federal agents. Falls into the FBI definition of Domestic Terrorism.
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Now you're just repeating what Harry said.

Again I ask ... where was the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... not threats of it ... it has to be actual, by definition.
and ...
What actions did Bundy take BEFORE the BLM showed up with a massive police presence that:
(a) warranted the assault and
(b) indicated there was domestic terrorism afoot?

If you don't address those questions directly then, sad to say, you'll look like an unthinking Party line parrot.

While we're at it and to level-set to see where you really are, were these guys guilty of domestic terrorism ...

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Buck Ewer said:
Regulated public lands.
What makes you think that this land is an unregulated free for all?
You must be reading Marx.
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Hum, Marx wasn't a fan of unregulated anything. The purpose of public lands is to maintain the use of these lands for the public. That's the actual intent of why we have public lands in the first place. Regulated federal lands are different...they are things like military bases and testing areas where the safety of the public would be at risk. You are confusing things.
 
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bubbabgone said:
Now you're just repeating what Harry said.

Again I ask ... where was the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... not threats of it ... it has to be actual, by definition.
and ...
What actions did Bundy take BEFORE the BLM showed up with a massive police presence that:
(a) warranted the assault and
(b) indicated there was domestic terrorism afoot?

If you don't address those questions directly then, sad to say, you'll look like an unthinking Party line parrot.

While we're at it and to level-set to see where you really are, were these guys guilty of domestic terrorism ...

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Only if you consider being black to be terrorizing.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
He was at the ready with the threat of gunfire...covering the proceedings as a threat to federal officers.
Everyone and anyone who is rational can see that.
PLEASE continue to defend his posture. It clearly puts you on the side of a terrorist.
Keep it up. You are losing your argument in leaps and bounds.
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Then why wasn't he arrested?
 
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mac said:
There's nothing illegal about "being ready". That's pretty much the point of the second amendment.
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Oh I see... then here is someone exercising their 2nd amendment rights with their gun innocently "at the ready"
 
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polgara said:
Fascinating link with great photos! :thumbs: Glad to see the cattle returning home to Bundy's ranch!

Greetings, Grant. :2wave:
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Greetings, Polgara!:2wave:

It seems to me that strongly held opinions are being held here and sides being taken yet there can be only one ultimate conclusion. But how that conclusion is arrived at means everything for the precedents which might be set. It could set the tone of the country for a very long while.
 
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mac said:
Hum, Marx wasn't a fan of unregulated anything. The purpose of public lands is to maintain the use of these lands for the public. That's the actual intent of why we have public lands in the first place. Regulated federal lands are different...they are things like military bases and testing areas where the safety of the public would be at risk. You are confusing things.
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Oh goody! ... I think I'll go down to my local park with my roto-tiller and plant me some potatoes... I always wanted to grow me some potatoes but I never had the space. The park near my house is public land and it isn't a military base or a testing area so I guess I'll be OK planting an acre or two ...right? Nobody better try to stop me either ...I'll bring my cowboy friends with their six shooters YEE-HAW! I'm so glad I'm not "confused" any more!

/sarc
 
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Buck Ewer said:
He was hiding like a ****ing coward.
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He was taking cover due to the overly aggressive nature of the BLM.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Oh goody! ... I think I'll go down to my local park with my roto-tiller and plant me some potatoes... I always wanted to grow me some potatoes but I never had the space. The park near my house is public land and it isn't a military base or a testing area so I guess I'll be OK planting an acre or two ...right?

/sarc
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But the park has an intended use, and your garden would interfere with the use by others. Grazing cattle on land that has no other use is a different thing all together. Try to keep up.
 
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mac said:
But the park has an intended use, and your garden would interfere with the use by others. Grazing cattle on land that has no other use is a different thing all together. Try to keep up.
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Who says it doesn't have any other use ...YOU? My intended use is to grow cranberries there. I only need about ten acres in hundreds of thousands...Why it won't interfere with anyone. Besides it's "un-regulated ...right?
I'm gonna grow some cranberries in Nevada. Yep I'm gonna dig out the bog ditches , divert one of them there public land rivers and flood the pasture and grow me some cranberries... It's not a military base or a testing range so I'll be OK doing that there.
I'll bring my cowboy friends with loaded six shooters and my militia friends with rifles and no one can stop me...
IT'S PUBLIC LAND and I'M PUBLIC!
/sarc
 
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mac said:
He was taking cover due to the overly aggressive nature of the BLM.
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Yes like I said he was cowering behind cover... hiding like the ****ing coward that he is.
Drawing a bead on law enforcement or federal agents will definitely get you shot if you let yourself be seen doing that.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
It absolutely does ...only the distance was different.
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There is no picture showing him aiming at anyone. In fact, from the pictures shown, it was not possible that he was aiming at anyone.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Who says it doesn't have any other use ...YOU? My intended use is to grow cranberries there. I only need about ten acres in hundreds of thousands...Why it won't interfere with anyone. Besides it's "un-regulated ...right?
I'm gonna grow some cranberries in Nevada. Yep I'm gonna dig out the bog ditches , divert one of them there public land rivers and flood the pasture and grow me some cranberries... It's not a military base or a testing range so I'll be OK doing that there.
I'll bring my cowboy friends with loaded six shooters and my militia friends with rifles and no one can stop me...
IT'S PUBLIC LAND and I'M PUBLIC!
/sarc
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What other use does it have? What specific person or group is being denied use due to bundy?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Yes like I said he was cowering behind cover... hiding like the ****ing coward that he is.
Drawing a bead on law enforcement or federal agents will definitely get you shot if you let yourself be seen doing that.
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So he was cowering and threatening?
 
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bubbabgone said:
Now you're just repeating what Harry said.

Again I ask ... where was the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... not threats of it ... it has to be actual, by definition.
and ...
What actions did Bundy take BEFORE the BLM showed up with a massive police presence that:
(a) warranted the assault and
(b) indicated there was domestic terrorism afoot?

If you don't address those questions directly then, sad to say, you'll look like an unthinking Party line parrot.

While we're at it and to level-set to see where you really are, were these guys guilty of domestic terrorism ...

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All that the FBI needs to define terrorism is in the very first two words of the definition in their link I provided, which are (Appear intended).

These guys, and women showed up to confront federal agents with firearms, that would mean by definition of appear intended to intimidate.

I don't see the new black panther party carrying firearms, do you?

It's funny how you brought this into this discussion.

Shall I post some information where anti government people have exploded bombs in BLM and Forest Service offices?
 
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Now I hear they intend to use women and children as shields. Now who would do such a thing? Sounds familiar to me.
 
Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

bubbabgone said:
Given the dangerous clown role Reid has adopted for himself, I think it's very possible he's looking to provoke a violent action by someone so he can say they are typical Tea Party.
These are desperate times for the Democrat Party.
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:agree: Calling people who don't agree with him "terrorists" isn't the brightest comment he ever made! You would expect better from the leader of the Senate!
 
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AJiveMan said:
All that the FBI needs to define terrorism is in the very first two words of the definition in their link I provided, which are (Appear intended).
Your link said all the elements have to be there ... intimidation does not stand alone ... if it did, the Blank Panthers at the polling place would satisfy your definition ... again, list the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping by Bundy.
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These guys, and women showed up to confront federal agents with firearms, that would mean by definition of appear intended to intimidate.

I don't see the new black panther party carrying firearms, do you?
I saw a weapon ... doesn't count if it's not gun?
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It's funny how you brought this into this discussion.

Shall I post some information where anti government people have exploded bombs in BLM and Forest Service offices?
Yeah ... who were they and what was their motivation? You might note that if true they actually performed the act of bombing
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polgara said:
:agree: Calling people who don't agree with him "terrorists" isn't the brightest comment he ever made! You would expect better from the leader of the Senate!
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Not this Senate Leader.
 
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