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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When people ask why the BLM has a special armed unit, or why they showed up with weapons to confiscate Bundy's cattle, the answer might be the history of conflicts in Nevada

    Story from 1995
    Did they ever catch whoever did this?

    Nonetheless, it seems as good an excuse as any for the Feds to go after private American citizens with armed troops and SWAT Teams.

    Recall what happened to this man in order to continue an ongoing government lie. Alleged 'Innocence of Muslims' filmmaker taken in for interview - latimes.com

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I don't need one of your family portraits to show me what a picture is.
    Naughty naughty - I do believe one might see your post as a personal attack, totally unrelated to the point I was making
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did they ever catch whoever did this?

    Nonetheless, it seems as good an excuse as any for the Feds to go after private American citizens with armed troops and SWAT Teams.

    Recall what happened to this man in order to continue an ongoing government lie. Alleged 'Innocence of Muslims' filmmaker taken in for interview - latimes.com

    Do you bother to read your own links?
    the Office of Probation in the Central District of California was reviewing whether Nakoula, who has been convicted on bank fraud charges, violated terms of his probation in relation to the video and its uploading onto the Internet.
    "On November 7, 2012, Nakoula pled guilty to four of the charges against him and was sentenced to one year in prison and four years of supervised release"


    Then we have this
    FEDERAL WORKERS: With death threats, Nev. conflict highlights dangerous side of public land management -- Thursday, April 17, 2014 -- www.eenews.net

    Over the past week, the Bureau of Land Management's Facebook page has become a target for anti-government vitriol -- including death threats to the agency's employees.

    "I hope each and every one of you get shot in the forehead," said a Monday post from a Facebook user identified as David Fry.

    "Treason is a hangable offence and America has a lot of rope!!" said a Tuesday post from a user identified as Jack Conwell.

    Amid threats of gunfire, BLM last weekend halted its weeklong roundup and impoundment of several hundreds of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle
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    The messages -- so far just threats -- underscore a dangerous side of public land management in the Silver State, the birthplace of the 1970s Sagebrush Rebellion that sought a state takeover of BLM lands and where bombs targeted BLM and Forest Service offices in 1990s.

    "How can we go out to the field when we are the only people out, and there's no one within 50 miles?" said one BLM employee who asked not to be named, saying it's troubling to be threatened by the public he works for. "I work for the taxpayers. I work for you."
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's true. I don't see those ranchers coming to the defense of wrongly accused Black boys. In fact, I didn't see a single brown skinned man among that crowd of angry whites.
    And? What's your point?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Do you bother to read your own links? "On November 7, 2012, Nakoula pled guilty to four of the charges against him and was sentenced to one year in prison and four years of supervised release"
    Yes, of course I'm familiar with the case. Several government officers arrived in the early morning hours, with the media alerted and present, to arrest the man who was alleged to have made the video that made the Muslims crazy enough with anger to attack the and kill four Americans in Benghazi. We know ths was a lie, or should know it by now. Do you really believe he was arrested for getting on the internet?


    Then we have this
    Of course you will have that! If the government goes after their own people with SWAT Teams over what should be a minor incident do you expect the American people to remain indifferent to whats happening to their country? Not all Americans are sheep.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I'd like to know who the **** you think you are in telling other adults where they should be going and what they should be doing. And who are you to decree who does and does not have a job. You know, some people get vacation or comp time. Then their are people like me who are retired. I go where I want, when I want and I surely don't need some liberal like you mouthing off about where that happens to be.

    BTW, one of the best things about this situation is watching you liberals get your panties all in wad because someone stands up against tyranny.
    Blah blah blah. I love that these are the oathkeepers, yet they have no qualms about leaving their families to camp out and play pretend patriot army. This isn't tyranny, you mock the very word by saying that. Bundy is a scofflaw, a freeloader who is stealing, and you all want to make him into a hero. Real men pay their damned bills, they don't need to call every angry hayseed with a gun out to fight the BLM which is 100% legal to do what it is doing, as has been found in the court of law.

    You are all for the rule of law, except when you disagree with it. Hypocrisy....

    And when you don't have an argument, you call someone a liberal...funny, as I voted mostly republican and libertarian in the last several elections....
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by pogomutt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    It's true. I don't see those ranchers coming to the defense of wrongly accused Black boys. In fact, I didn't see a single brown skinned man among that crowd of angry whites.
    And? What's your point?
    The sovereign citizen movement is almost exclusively composed of working class white guys. White guys with feelings of paranoia induced by a changing world in which they may no longer claim the top spot simply due to their ethnic background.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The sovereign citizen movement is almost exclusively composed of working class white guys. White guys with feelings of paranoia induced by a changing world in which they may no longer claim the top spot simply due to their ethnic background.
    The OWS more mostly White as well, though not apparently working and without class. What sociological insights have you gained from that?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The land belongs to The People. Bundy is as much a part of The People as you are.
    Exactly, he's one three hundred millionth.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by pogomutt View Post
    And? What's your point?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, of course I'm familiar with the case. Several government officers arrived in the early morning hours, with the media alerted and present, to arrest the man who was alleged to have made the video that made the Muslims crazy enough with anger to attack the and kill four Americans in Benghazi. We know ths was a lie, or should know it by now. Do you really believe he was arrested for getting on the internet?


    Of course you will have that! If the government goes after their own people with SWAT Teams over what should be a minor incident do you expect the American people to remain indifferent to whats happening to their country? Not all Americans are sheep.

    There may well have been other violations of his probation conditions, after all he did plead guilty to four separate charges - didn't he?

    Actually what I 'know' about Benghazi is that the video did play a part in the attacks, as the protests the video caused provided cover for the armed attack by al Shabab militants. Things out in the real world are never as simple as far too many seemingly are unwilling to acknowledge.

    Your words do appear to indicate that anonymous death threats to individuals working for the government are to be expected - nice society you seem to be trying to justify. What would be your reaction if one of those making threats actually carries them out? If they can be tracked down should those making threats be arrested or are they simply using their free speech rights?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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