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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It's not only "not quite the same", it isn't even close to being the same.

    You're comparing an illegal act (robbery) with the right to carry a gun, which isn't illegal.

    Bundy's "crime" is a civil crime. Armed robbery is a very serious offense. I'm really surprised you don't know the difference.
    Anytime you engage in armed resistance to the enforcement of a judgement in a civil matter, its no longer a civil matter.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Inviting an armed posse to your land to avoid paying millions in fines by threat of force is a serious crime.
    What is the specific law that prohibits inviting posses onto your land? Please cite it.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Anytime you engage in armed resistance to the enforcement of a judgement in a civil matter, its no longer a civil matter.
    Please cite the law that affirms this. Is it Federal? State?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

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    Here on the Left Coast all of the stores in the black communities are owned by Koreans. "African-Americans" are more likely to loot and then burn the stores.

    In 1992 the LAPD didn't do jack ****.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Please cite the law that affirms this. Is it Federal? State?
    That would be criminal contempt of court for starters: Criminal Contempt of Court - FindLaw

    The feds were enforcing a court order / judgement. I think the way the feds went about it was over the top to say the least, but armed resistance to the enforcement of a court order is a criminal act regardless of the jurisdiction.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    That would be criminal contempt of court for starters: Criminal Contempt of Court - FindLaw

    The feds were enforcing a court order / judgement. I think the way the feds went about it was over the top to say the least, but armed resistance to the enforcement of a court order is a criminal act regardless of the jurisdiction.
    I missed the part where it says it's illegal to have armed people with you.

    I also missed the part where it says that said armed people are committing a crime.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Right on. I wonder what the reaction from the far right would be if hundreds of armed African americans went to stop some store from being evicted in a black neighborhood and took up sniper positions to prevent the eviction of the owner?

    Okay - I really do not wonder very long as its fairly obvious what posts we would read here condemning them for being "thugs" and "gang bangers" and all other manner of negative characterization.
    Race card...why am I not surprised? I'd say more but whats the point? You are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that what you say here is true going by the tone of your post.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    * And yes sadly, the guys race did matter. Many of the militiamen were very quick to point out that the govenment purportedly ignores illegal aliens, but then goes enforcement crazy on the rancher.
    Another race card. Don't you guys ever get tired of using it? You do realize that illegal aliens are not a race. They are people that come into the country illegally or stay past their visa's. This includes whites, blacks, hispanics, asians and every other race out there. Try not to be so ignorant on the subject..kk? Besides, considering Obama's EO lettings hundreds of thousands of illegals stay in this country I'd say that those militamen have a point.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So if I walk into a gas station while carrying a shotgun and tell the clerk to give me all the money in the cash register its not armed robbery so long as I don't actually fire the shotgun???

    Of course its not quite the same, in Bundy's case he didn't just steal a couple of hundred dollars out of a cash register, he grazed his cows on taxpayer land for decades, did not pay the relevant fees for 20 years, lost every court battle, and then in the end had a bunch of people show up armed to the teeth to ensure he did not pay the million dollars he now owes.
    Oh, moral equivalence argument. Can I play?
    Okay, here we go. Let's say you own a business. A business that has been in your family for generations And one day a group of men come in and say you will now pay them a fee or there will be 'consequences'. So, you refuse to pay on the moral imperative that you should not have to give up your hard earned money to those that didn't earn it. Then your stock starts to disappear or is outright destroyed. Others hear about this and come to your aid to push back that group of men that have been harassing you.
    So, tall us. Are the people defending any more wrong because they are protecting you from the government and not a bunch of street hoods? Since their actions are exactly that same.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Here's some background: PEASE: Why does the federal government own Nevada? - Your Houston News: Opinion

    Slanted a little, perhaps, but it's a good indication of how this impasse was reached.

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