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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think those situations never happen to Spanish, White or Oriental people?

    It seems that too many groups of people feel they are being hard done by these days, that the world is somehow plotting against them. If you feel incidents like this justify any prejudices you might have, or insecurities, it's time to take a broader view of life, and what all people have to go through.
    Well, when white people become afraid of black people on an elevator.....especially black men, oh they feel so small and squeamish and intimidated, poor little things.

    But, I wasn't the person who posted the photo of those scary looking black folks and alluded to them carrying firearms or alluded that those were domestic terrorists, maybe in hindsight, the member that did regrets posting the nonsense.

    We're supposed to be discussing militia groups of people confronting federal officers trying to do their job.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

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    There is no question that Bundy is wrong. The law is clear and he didn't follow the law. But he isn't a domestic terrorist. He is a deadbeat that owes money to the government. Major Nidal was a domestic terrorist. He screamed Allah Akbar as he mowed down innocent people. Why didn't we call a real domestic terrorist by its correct description instead of deadbeat who owes money to the government?
    I believe Reid was referring to the people threatening law enforcement with loaded weapons as the terrorists, not Bundy for illegal grazing.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Ahhh, the Nuremberg defense! How cute.
    Or just a factual one The Nuremberg defense attempted to justify heinous and illegal acts , whereas these agents were entirely within both legal and moral boundaries. No need at all to resort to laughable extremes.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Legally, it does matter. Look into why public lands exist and what they are.
    Asking others to do your homework for you? In any event, no credible definition of public lands allows any Joe Six-Pack to use the land for whatever purpose he sees fit and without financial compensation.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Or just a factual one The Nuremberg defense attempted to justify heinous and illegal acts , whereas these agents were entirely within both legal and moral boundaries. No need at all to resort to laughable extremes.
    Laughable extremes would be armed militia wannabe freedom fighters intimidating law officers going about their legal duty, except for the potential for murderous consequences.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I believe Reid was referring to the people threatening law enforcement with loaded weapons as the terrorists, not Bundy for illegal grazing.
    Didn't the Bureau of Land Management first arrive with loaded weapons and SWAT teams to round of cattle and save the tortoise? What s the Bureau of Land Management doing in such a position anyway? Was this situation ever contemplated when the Federal Government first came up with this idea?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Didn't the Bureau of Land Management first arrive with loaded weapons and SWAT teams to round of cattle and save the tortoise? What s the Bureau of Land Management doing in such a position anyway? Was this situation ever contemplated when the Federal Government first came up with this idea?
    Bundy owes a million dollars in back fees and fines. Lets not bring strawmen like tortoises into this. Fact is Bundy grazed without paying, plus he grazed more cattle than the rules allow. Hence the back fees and fines.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Pointing the weapon at federal agents trying to do their job, which is collecting fees and fines from a deadbeat who is grazing his cattle on public land and not paying for the privilege, sure as hell is.

    Do you think cops have a right to shoot drug dealers who are pointing a gun at them?
    They weren't collecting fees and fines and there is no proof anyone was aiming at the agents.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Asking others to do your homework for you? In any event, no credible definition of public lands allows any Joe Six-Pack to use the land for whatever purpose he sees fit and without financial compensation.
    I didn't say for whatever purpose, but anyways, there is a reason public lands exist the none of the " federalists" In this thread seem to understand.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Do you believe all criminals should be able to point loaded guns at law enforcement. or do you only feel that way if they are your kind of criminals?
    If they are using excessive force, sure I do. You have just as much right to defend yourself from them as you do anyone else.
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