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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Given the definition of Domestic terrorism, you have it backwards.
    The threat needs to be undertaken, initiated or planned by someone against someone before law enforcement is involved.
    Like McVeigh or in Boston, for example.

    There was no danger to human life on the Bundy Ranch ... just a grazing fee violation and someone with a motive of their own set a swarm of heavily armed BLM officers on Bundy.
    Bundy wasn't intimidating or coercing anyone and there was no mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... expect of cattle by the Government.
    But it was within the territorial jurisdiction of the US ... you get that one.
    Again, it doesn't come close to domestic terrorism.
    But I'll say this much ... Harry Reid appears to be looking to incite violence and by definition he satisfies one of the elements.
    Intimidation;

    to make timid or fearful : frighten; especially : to compel or deter by or as if by threats

    "Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

    Appear intended (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion
    It's plain to see you don't get it.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid slammed supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, calling them “domestic terrorists.”
    “These people, who hold themselves out to be patriots are not. They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists,” Reid said Thursday at an event hosted by the Las Vegas Review-Journal
    What Reid said was not directed at Bundy, he was talking about his gun toting supporters.

    Again, you and others supporting Bundy in this thread don't get it.

    When people show up to stage a peaceful protest, they shouldn't be showing up with firearms, which were meant to intimidate and coerce federal agents. Falls into the FBI definition of Domestic Terrorism.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Bundy supporters hitching themselves to those who rebelled against King George Delusions of grandeur doesn't even begin to describe it.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Simply put.....If you point a gun at someone, you are terrorizing them.

    If you display a gun during a confrontation, you are attempting intimidation.

    If you do so toward a federal agent, you are terrorizing domestically.

    If you are stupid enough to fire.......you are justifiably dead.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    How many OWS people were armed with firearms?
    Go through the lists of OWS crimes and take your pick. There's a gun murder in there. Homemade grenades? Molotov Cocktails? I see some knife fights and people siccing dogs on police. Just Like the Tea Party: A List of Occupy Mayhem Sorted by Type | Verum Serum. The Cleveland bridge bomb plotters were in Occupy. If you're into quantity over quality, here's a list of over 7,000 arrests.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Fascinating link with great photos! Glad to see the cattle returning home to Bundy's ranch!

    Greetings, Grant.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    d: Why is this being hyped and mischaracterized by Reid? And why is it okay to tase people who object to having their possessions - in this case cattle - taken from them? What is the reason behind this?
    Given the dangerous clown role Reid has adopted for himself, I think it's very possible he's looking to provoke a violent action by someone so he can say they are typical Tea Party.
    These are desperate times for the Democrat Party.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He was at the ready with the threat of gunfire...covering the proceedings as a threat to federal officers.
    Everyone and anyone who is rational can see that.
    PLEASE continue to defend his posture. It clearly puts you on the side of a terrorist.
    Keep it up. You are losing your argument in leaps and bounds.
    There's nothing illegal about "being ready". That's pretty much the point of the second amendment.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Intimidation;

    to make timid or fearful : frighten; especially : to compel or deter by or as if by threats



    It's plain to see you don't get it.



    What Reid said was not directed at Bundy, he was talking about his gun toting supporters.
    Again, you and others supporting Bundy in this thread don't get it.

    When people show up to stage a peaceful protest, they shouldn't be showing up with firearms, which were meant to intimidate and coerce federal agents. Falls into the FBI definition of Domestic Terrorism.
    Now you're just repeating what Harry said.

    Again I ask ... where was the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... not threats of it ... it has to be actual, by definition.
    and ...
    What actions did Bundy take BEFORE the BLM showed up with a massive police presence that:
    (a) warranted the assault and
    (b) indicated there was domestic terrorism afoot?

    If you don't address those questions directly then, sad to say, you'll look like an unthinking Party line parrot.

    While we're at it and to level-set to see where you really are, were these guys guilty of domestic terrorism ...

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Regulated public lands.
    What makes you think that this land is an unregulated free for all?
    You must be reading Marx.
    Hum, Marx wasn't a fan of unregulated anything. The purpose of public lands is to maintain the use of these lands for the public. That's the actual intent of why we have public lands in the first place. Regulated federal lands are different...they are things like military bases and testing areas where the safety of the public would be at risk. You are confusing things.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Now you're just repeating what Harry said.

    Again I ask ... where was the mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping ... not threats of it ... it has to be actual, by definition.
    and ...
    What actions did Bundy take BEFORE the BLM showed up with a massive police presence that:
    (a) warranted the assault and
    (b) indicated there was domestic terrorism afoot?

    If you don't address those questions directly then, sad to say, you'll look like an unthinking Party line parrot.

    While we're at it and to level-set to see where you really are, were these guys guilty of domestic terrorism ...

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    Only if you consider being black to be terrorizing.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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