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Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’[W:254:298:850,989]

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Mithros said:
Oh yeah, those jerks who dared to insist that the government recognize them as people instead of subhuman chattle.... That's exactly the same as a freeloading welfare king rancher demanding that the us government provide a million dollars worth of subsidized feed for his cattle. Does he own the land? NO. Does he have permission to graze his cattle there? NO. Is anyone else doing it? NO. Then he should get the hell off. The right wing blather on this is staggeringly unamerican. Threatening violence against the people of the United States unless you get what you want is terrorism. TERRORISM. We put people into Gitmo for far less than this jerk and his rabid supporters.
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Bundy isnt an American citizen?
 
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Buck Ewer said:
As I saw it ...it was not possible that he wasn't aiming at anyone.
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This is a lie! You have no idea what he was aiming at, this just fits your agenda better.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Again comparing the civil rights movement to some guy who won't pay his fees is idiotic at best and completely disgracing the civil rights movement at worse. The guy didn't pay his fees it has NOTHING to do with his freedom. The guy was an asshole and the government used excessive force on it. Just because the government was wrong in using excessive force, doesn't mean Bundy is some patriot because he didn't pay his fees. This has NOTHING to do with civil disobedience and more with some loser who doesn't want to pay fees every other rancher pays for.
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Its idiotic to say theres a difference.
 
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TheNextEra said:
What came first is the guy breaking the law by not paying his fees. Then the government's excessive force. Then the rednecks.

Again, the government's use of excessive force doesn't excuse Bundy's actions of not paying his fees. BOTH sides though are ultimately in the wrong.
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Taking up arms against the United States and declaring that it doesn't exist would make you an enemy combatant. This rich freeloader has had his 20 years in court.

What if he was a Muslim? What if a large group of Muslims formed an armed militia, announced that they no longer recognize the US government, and then declared that they'd use women as human shields. The crater would still be smoking. The fact that this guy is still alive and free is pretty clear evidence that the government hasn't used excessive force.
 
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calamity said:
Perfect posture to receive a drone strike up his ass.
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Sounds like something you are familiar with.
 
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apdst said:
Bundy isnt an American citizen?
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You can be an American citizen and take up arms against the US government.

What if this guy was any other color, any other religion, or had any other political affiliation? Yeah.. that's "different"
 
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Mithros said:
You can be an American citizen and take up arms against the US government.

What if this guy was any other color, any other religion, or had any other political affiliation? Yeah.. that's "different"
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You say he doesnt own the land. That must mean he's not American citizen.
 
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TheNextEra said:
What came first is the guy breaking the law by not paying his fees. Then the government's excessive force. Then the rednecks.

Again, the government's use of excessive force doesn't excuse Bundy's actions of not paying his fees. BOTH sides though are ultimately in the wrong.
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Excessive force? Who was hurt? You do know what excessive force is. Correct?

BTW, where you complaining about "excessive force" when this happened?

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AJiveMan said:
I found one better.
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Comparing Bundy to the Civil Rights marchers and then calling my post desperate...definitely a strong contender for Irony of the week.
 
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calamity said:
Excessive force? Who was hurt? You do know what excessive force is. Correct?

BTW, where you complaining about "excessive force" when this happened?

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The BLM employed excessive stupidity.
 
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apdst said:
The Black Panthers and The Weather Underground actually launched attacks on policemen. So, yes.
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Pray tell, how do you go from "civil rights marchers" to mentioning two violent groups that were only peripherally involved in the civil rights movement?
 
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calamity said:
Comparing Bundy to the Civil Rights marchers and then calling my post desperate...definitely a strong contender for Irony of the week.
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First, the race card, then personal attacks. Its all you people have, ever v
 
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apdst said:
You say he doesnt own the land. That must mean he's not American citizen.
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I'm not sure you understand how logic works.

But fine, we'll use your beyond stupid reasoning. See the green square. That's Bundy's ranch. See the shaded area? That's where he illegally grazes his cattle. As a US citizen he "owns" a 1/300,000,000 share of that land. He can have that too.

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calamity said:
If this was a band of inner city, armed urban thugs protecting a crack dealer from the DEA or FBI in the heart of Detroit, you'd be all in favor of the government sending in troops and probably calling in the drones. So, cut the crap.
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This wasn't a crack dealer in Detroit being raided by the police. This wouldn't make the national news, I imagine it happens daily in Detroit. This is an overzealous government attempting to intimidate citizens and finding they bit off more than they could chew. Now they have resorted to Harry Reid, of all people, attacking these American citizens publically. I hope Reid is in the front line I this ever escalates to something more than a standoff.
 
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Somerville said:
Pray tell, how do you go from "civil rights marchers" to mentioning two violent groups that were only peripherally involved in the civil rights movement?
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But, they were involved in the civil rights movement. Yes?
 
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If a republican would have said the same words as the senile pig licking dog Reid the liberals would have screamed racism and fascism immediately. Notice one little libbie (haymarket) here brought up race fist thing. The armored pig force with their bullet proof clothes and machine guns and sniper rifles are a symbol of the underlying intolerance of the left wing murderers. Harry Reid has a Janet Reno blowup doll.
 
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apdst said:
The BLM employed excessive stupidity.
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Bundy is a socialist arguing public use of the commons. Ironic. No?
 
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calamity said:
Bundy is a socialist arguing public use of the commons. Ironic. No?
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Not really, since its no different than protesting in the town square.
 
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calamity said:
If the guy on the bridge is pointing a gun at someone, I'd have given the order to shoot him.
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Given the totality of the situation, I would not have.

At the same time, I think such an order would have been justified. It would, however, have been difficult to actually shoot him. He had a good position in that he had the high ground and had the cover of the concrete K-rails.
 
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Mithros said:
I'm not sure you understand how logic works.

But fine, we'll use your beyond stupid reasoning. See the green square. That's Bundy's ranch. See the shaded area? That's where he illegally grazes his cattle. As a US citizen he "owns" a 1/300,000,000 share of that land. He can have that too.

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The land belongs to The People. Bundy is as much a part of The People as you are.
 
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