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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Don't you think it's a little interesting that people would show up armed ready to take on the government? People don't usually do that when the government is in the right.
    No, we've seen groups like child molesters with David Koresh do it before. We know which side YOU support especially since you have supported the legal right for people to be in possession of child porn in your past posts.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, we've seen groups like child molesters with David Koresh do it before. We know which side YOU support especially since you have supported the legal right for people to be in possession of child porn in your past posts.
    So if you're opposed to Government overkill, you must support the ones they killed?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    So if you're opposed to Government overkill, you must support the ones they killed?
    Keep stretching son. You ain't got nothing.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Well ... since your link says there are 3 components required for domestic terrorism, it's up to you to give examples of all 3 in the Bundy case ... remember ... it has to be all 3 and the entirety of each one.




    Go for it.
    No, it's actually up to you to read what's posted in the link, comprehend what you're reading, and then interpret what you have read. I can lead you to the link and show you what the law states, but I cannot make you do all three things noted here.

    But I will say this, coercion and intimidation defined to me is a citizen producing a firearm or other weapon in a conflict or lawful order from a person or persons with proper authority, either state, local or federal.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Ok so if pissed off people get together, they should be able to do whatever they want to according to you. Law means nothing to you as law as you agree with the lawbreakers.
    Laws are made by men and enforced by men. If the law or the enforcement of it is in my opinion morally flawed then yes the law means nothing. Laws are tools, tools of the mind, nothing more. Tools can be used for good or ill. If they are misused I have no problem ignoring them. They are not sacrosanct to me.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All these Libbos supporting government use of force to get its way. Im not a damn bit surprised.
    From your posts, I take it you're a Bundy supporter and anti government as well. You fall into the category of a Libbo IMHO because you're supporting a moocher, a deadbeat. And here, I thought conservatives were against that kind of thing.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think "domestic terrorist," is a bit strong. Throwing the terrorist word around diminishes it's true meaning. But I suppose it's just a matter of perspective.

    This person, who wrote this story linked below in that liberal rag called The Salon, just says the rancher is a communist or, at best, a socialist. The militia people are just disgruntled and disfranchised folks looking for a fight. I am hearing two versions of the story. Not sure which is accurate. But, even if the freeloading rancher turns out to be a bad reason for these militia people to get up in arms about, make no mistake. They WILL find a reason to get violent sooner than later. America has gone away from their ideology and they are plenty pissed off about it. It's just a matter of time before they will become, in fact, violent enemies of the state.

    The latest right-wing media poster-victim, Cliven Bundy, is just the latest in a long line of desert dwellers who thinks he or she should not have to follow the law and has a god-given right to unlimited use of public resources, in this case, rangeland. I know the mentality well, because I grew up in rural Nevada and clung desperately to such beliefs until only a few years ago.

    Bundy has not paid grazing fees in close to 20 years, while the federal government has, with painful, stupid moves, tried to somehow deal with him. Bundy also faced restrictions because he continued to graze cattle on a slice of public land reserved for the endangered desert tortoise. He was invited to talk to Sean Hannity (of course) about the “standoff.”

    “We want freedom,” Bundy said. I don’t know what freedom Bundy’s talking about. He does not own the land nor does he even pay the modest fees required to use it. Thousands of ranchers across the West pay fees for their businesses, but Bundy thinks he should get to use public resources to make a personal profit. Cliven Bundy, far from being a patriot, is also clearly a straight-up communist.
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    Fox News’ demented poster boy: Why angry rancher Cliven Bundy is no patriot - Salon.com
    Basically, what Bundy and his militia friends have done is raised the level of awareness to other federal agencies. Let's not even kid ourselves about that fact. Some agency is probably watching this particular group in earnest right now, and may even be tracking or eavesdropping in on their conversations.

    Bundy and his supporters have dug themselves into a deeper hole if nothing else. The next phase might be covering them up. Not that I'd like to see another Waco or Ruby Ridge, but when and if they make an arrest attempt, it might get hairy.

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Basically, what Bundy and his militia friends have done is raised the level of awareness to other federal agencies. Let's not even kid ourselves about that fact. Some agency is probably watching this particular group in earnest right now, and may even be tracking or eavesdropping in on their conversations.
    You mean like they do to everyone in the country already?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Should we drop drones on them?
    If they shoot their guns at federal officials enforcing the law, then you bet I'd drone their asses.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, we've seen groups like child molesters with David Koresh do it before. We know which side YOU support especially since you have supported the legal right for people to be in possession of child porn in your past posts.
    Did you notice how my comment allowed for their to be expectations? Apparently you missed it and thought it would be wise of you to post an exception to the rule as if to make some sort of point I didn't already consider.

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