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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    That rancher had a whole different set of circumstances than Waco or Ruby Ridge.

    For starters, WACO did not involve the following:

    -A guy who who chose to purchase something and then refused to pay for it - for years
    - A guy who claimed that he owned public land because of his "ancestory"
    -A guy who was violating the law on a large scale (Bundy did not have say, 20 subsistance cows. Instead he had a commercial business involving hundreds of cows)


    Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership). They'd never paid the Fedgov for it. They DID pay the State of Nevada.

    This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.

    Ok so he isn't poor... only poor people deserve compassion when the government sends in puppy-stomping jackboot thugs?

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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    That rancher had a whole different set of circumstances than Waco or Ruby Ridge.

    For starters, WACO did not involve the following:

    -A guy who who chose to purchase something and then refused to pay for it - for years
    - A guy who claimed that he owned public land because of his "ancestory"
    -A guy who was violating the law on a large scale (Bundy did not have say, 20 subsistance cows. Instead he had a commercial business involving hundreds of cows)


    Or maybe leftist Occupiers refusing to pay their college loans?

    But wait, only right wing anarchists are cool. In addition, white* right wing anarchists are not only cool, but sexy. Those same right wingers would advocate drone strikes on blacks and the Occupiers attempting the same stunt.

    * And yes sadly, the guys race did matter. Many of the militiamen were very quick to point out that the govenment purportedly ignores illegal aliens, but then goes enforcement crazy on the rancher.
    Actually no it doesn't, why? Because race doesn't matter as it concerns an illegal alien, him being an ILLEGAL alien is the issue.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership).
    My family has hunted, fished and trapped in and around certain state forests for three generations. My ancestory does not give me the right to set up a commercial logging business and refuse to pay for a permit. The fact that I offered to pay, say the county sherrif does not matter.

    Bundy and the Occupiers have alot in common. The Occupiers, however, have not taken up arms- at least not yet. If it works for Bundy, it should work for them as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.
    Yes. And had Bundy paid the permit fee, I would respect him. I am not a big fan endangered species laws and Bundy's privelages (not rights) to use the area should be respected. He needs to pay the fees though.

    In the end, Bundy is just an Occupier with short hair.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That's what those who think as you do would have been saying about American revolutionaries too. If it hadn't been for people who had the guts to say no to those in power, we'd still be paying the royals, rather than eating up the tabloid crap about them.

    Nobody WANTS to start a war, but if you aren't willing to fight when you believe your rights are being trampled on, then you are not only a coward, but you just keep giving up more until there's nothing left to fight for.
    Baloney. Stop the chest beating hyperbole. This is nowhere near anything comparable to the revolutionary war. Put your bullet back in your pocket, the kooks are not going to snipe at Federal agents without overwhelming force counterattacking and turning them into daisy propellant.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    You got it twisted son. The cowards were the one's sicking dogs on pregnant women...

    Get real.
    Cowards are people who don't pay their bills and keep stealing, like Bundy. Cowards hide behind women and threaten to shoot.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Bundy's family had grazed cattle there for three generations (theory of mixing one's labor with the land = ownership). They'd never paid the Fedgov for it. They DID pay the State of Nevada.

    This involves a land-grab from a couple decades ago where Fed control of public land was dramatically expanded... it has long been a sore point among many.

    Ok so he isn't poor... only poor people deserve compassion when the government sends in puppy-stomping jackboot thugs?
    So what? He DID owe the Feds.

    I can't buy a Toyota and then say that I am going to pay Nissan for it.

    How is 20 years of court battles (all lost by Bundy) and then finally going in to garnish Bundy of what he owes "jackboot thugs?"

    Put some lotion on that itchy trigger finger.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Bull****. The Feds are the ones who shoot (and burn) innocent women and children. See Ruby Ridge and Waco.
    And Koresh was another coward hiding behind women and children.

    Everyone wants the rule of law, until their hypocrisy gets in the way.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He's not wrong. A bunch of armed vigilantes obstructing justice.
    If that were true, they'd be arrested. Obviously you're wrong and don't know WTF you're talking about.
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    Re: Reid calls Bundy supporters ‘domestic terrorists’

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    And Koresh was another coward hiding behind women and children.

    Everyone wants the rule of law, until their hypocrisy gets in the way.
    Remind me what law Koresh was violating?

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