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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Clearly not but you're welcome to your delusions.
    Clearly so and libertarians face reality qhilw others delude themselves with utopian visions.

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    The US is an oligarchy, study concludes[W:192]All the bickering and baiting and trolling needs to stop NOW. Infractions and thread bans will start occuring. Stay on topic and address the posts, not the posters or poster leans as a side swipe. The thread is about the US being an oligarchy, which per definition is about small groups ruling the masses in a nation.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Prosperity has nothing to do with anything. Are you guys just making up definitions?
    It does serve as a good indicator.

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    It does serve as a good indicator.
    Not of whether decisions are by voting or dictatorship. Outcome is irrelevant.

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yeah, but they don't do that, do they? This kind of paranoid delusion that you and other 3rd party people seem to have is absurd. Oh yeah, they can mandate that we dissect babies, that's just paranoid nonsense to think that they actually will. Stop being ridiculous.
    The point is not that they don't do that the point is that they CAN do that. Right now you have a government you appear to trust, which is fine, but suppose a party of different beliefs takes over and insists that things are run their way. What will you do?

    Luckily these negatives views of power corrupting people were instituted through the Constitution to minimize this possibility.

    However that document has been bastardized over the past decades to the point where their foresight which kept the country together is being unraveled and undone.

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The point is not that they don't do that the point is that they CAN do that. Right now you have a government you appear to trust, which is fine, but suppose a party of different beliefs takes over and insists that things are run their way. What will you do?
    I'll let you know when it actually happens, otherwise you're just engaging in the fallacy Reductio ad absurdum. Come back when you have an actual example that has happened in reality. I don't trust the government farther than I can throw it but I know that your examples are laughably ridiculous.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The point is not that they don't do that the point is that they CAN do that. Right now you have a government you appear to trust, which is fine, but suppose a party of different beliefs takes over and insists that things are run their way. What will you do?

    Luckily these negatives views of power corrupting people were instituted through the Constitution to minimize this possibility.

    However that document has been bastardized over the past decades to the point where their foresight which kept the country together is being unraveled and undone.
    But has it really minimized it?

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    But has it really minimized it?
    Not after they watered down the Constitution in order to remove power from the States.. Now it can anything those in power want it to mean.

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not after they watered down the Constitution in order to remove power from the States.. Now it can anything those in power want it to mean.
    When you say watered down, do you mean changing the wording?

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    When you say watered down, do you mean changing the wording?
    A few examples of its being watered down are the Unpatriot Act, Military Commissions Act, and the NDAA amendment that nullifies Habeas Corpus.

    It is watered down mostly by illegitimate legislative garbage, but also by misguided or treasonous efforts by both the Executive and Judicial branches.

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