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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Fascism consistently has a nationalistic, racial element to it in which one group of people is seen as superior to all the rest and that becomes enshrined into the legal system.
    America is most certainly nationalistic. Have you not been paying attention?

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    A 40 hour job on minimum wage is already not enough to feed oneself. Or rather, it isn't enough to pay one's rent.
    Then those people should stop trying to do it. Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage. Anyone who tries to live on it is a moron.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    The quote says nothing about said consequences.

    Reducing government to bare minimum is the only way to change the oligarchy and restore a true republic.

    That's the consequence inherent in libertarian beliefs. A better place.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or remove power from Washington and return it to the States, where the local electorate can keep an eyes on it..
    If the federal electorate can't control Washington, what makes you think the state electorate will do any better at the state level?
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Today, and yes. Do we not have elections? Does our congress not vote on laws? Thats what democracy is.
    No, a democracy is where our elected representatives actually represent the interests of the people who put them in power. Today, we send people to Washington and they're automatically corrupted by the system, such that they do the minimum they have to in order to get re-elected, but beyond that, they're part of the corrupt political machine.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Just to play Devil's Advocate, with our 2 party system, for example, the voter has a choice between a Clinton or a Bush. Is that really a choice?

    I happen to always vote 3rd party, just to offer my objection, but most folks don't.
    Voting third party is no more a choice than voting for Mickey Mouse. The only person who matters is the one who actually wins and people who make protest votes or don't vote at all, they still have to live under the policies of the one who makes it into office.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then those people should stop trying to do it. Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage. Anyone who tries to live on it is a moron.
    And those who are attempting to live on it should, what? Stop living? Magically obtain better employment in a horrible recession? Win the lottery? What? What are these desperate people to do while you sit above them and feel superior?
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And those who are attempting to live on it should, what? Stop living? Magically obtain better employment in a horrible recession? Win the lottery? What? What are these desperate people to do while you sit above them and feel superior?
    It's their own fault they put themselves in that situation, that they didn't get an education when they had the opportunity, that they didn't gain valuable work experience and a strong work ethic, that they made bad choices in their lives and now expect the rest of us to pay for their stupidity. It's called personal responsibility. I wouldn't expect you to understand anything about it. You make good decisions first, you earn your way up the ladder first, THEN you try to live on your own.
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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, a democracy is where our elected representatives actually represent the interests of the people who put them in power. Today, we send people to Washington and they're automatically corrupted by the system, such that they do the minimum they have to in order to get re-elected, but beyond that, they're part of the corrupt political machine.
    No, thats politics. Democracy is simply a tool.

    a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
    How those agents choose to exert that power is irrelevant to the definition.

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    Re: The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If the federal electorate can't control Washington, what makes you think the state electorate will do any better at the state level?
    The idea is to make Washington weaker and make the States stronger. We can already see the problems the Feds are creating across the country.

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