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    Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Well, that's a headline you never want to see unless you're doing a history report on the lead-up to World War II.

    Jews in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk where pro-Russian militants have taken over government buildings were told they have to "register" with the Ukrainians who are trying to make the city become part of Russia, according to Israeli media.

    Jews emerging from a synagogue say they were handed leaflets that ordered the city's Jews to provide a list of property they own and pay a registration fee "or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportation and see their assets confiscated," reported Ynet News, Israel's largest news website.
    Ah, according to Israeli media. The order was probably given to everyone as some part of bizarre census and "Israeli media" are just making it out like Jews specifically were being targeted.

    The leaflet begins, "Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality," and states that all people of Jewish descent over 16 years old must report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and "register."
    Oh.

    Olga Resnikova, 32, a Jewish resident of Donetsk, told Ynet she never experienced anti-Semitism in the city until she saw this leaflet.

    "We don't know if these notifications were distributed by pro-Russian activists or someone else, but it's serious that it exists," she said. "The text reminds of the fascists in 1941," she said referring to the Nazis who occupied Ukraine during World War II.
    Yes, Olga, you probably wouldn't, because that's how antisemitism rolls in Europe, West and East: something terrible is done to the Jews there, then a horror takes over at what has just been done and everyone learns their lesson for the next century (give or take a few years) until the whole thing happens all over again.

    Why Jews continue to remain especially in East Europe is a mystery to me.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    This is quite disturbing. There are a number of reports collaborating the anti-Semitism from Right Sector in the Ukraine. (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...news/1.5757320) (Svoboda Fuels Ukraine's Growing Anti-Semitism | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com)
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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Well, that's a headline you never want to see unless you're doing a history report on the lead-up to World War II.

    Ah, according to Israeli media. The order was probably given to everyone as some part of bizarre census and "Israeli media" are just making it out like Jews specifically were being targeted.

    Oh.

    Yes, Olga, you probably wouldn't, because that's how antisemitism rolls in Europe, West and East: something terrible is done to the Jews there, then a horror takes over at what has just been done and everyone learns their lesson for the next century (give or take a few years) until the whole thing happens all over again.

    Why Jews continue to remain especially in East Europe is a mystery to me.
    Eastern Europe?

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ah, according to Israeli media. The order was probably given to everyone as some part of bizarre census and "Israeli media" are just making it out like Jews specifically were being targeted.
    They were not specicially targetted. Rather, it looks like all non Russians needed to register. Jews, like Russians and Ukrainians are considered a seperate ethnic group. The leaflets were probably distributed by Russian extremists. Even the plan to register "Ukrainians" seems impossible as the division between "Russian" and "Ukrainian" in the area is apparently very blurry.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This is quite disturbing. There are a number of reports collaborating the anti-Semitism from Right Sector in the Ukraine. (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...news/1.5757320) (Svoboda Fuels Ukraine's Growing Anti-Semitism | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com)
    No, the reports appear to not be isolated.

    Ukrainian Jews seek urgent help from Israel - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews

    Rabbi Menachem Margolin, director-general of the European Jewish Association (EJA), has urged Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon to urgently send security forces to the Jewish communities in Ukraine, which he says are suffering from a "growing wave of anti-Semitic attacks."
    The reported events include a Molotov cocktail thrown at a synagogue in Zaporizhia; an incident which was captured on security cameras; a message sent to the rabbi of Kryvyi Rih that he must leave the city within 72 hours; a writing on the home of the rabbi of Bilytske saying, "We are already near you"; vandalism against a sculpture created by a Jewish artist; and graffiti in favor of the anti-Semitic party.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    They were not specicially targetted. Rather, it looks like all non Russians needed to register. Jews, like Russians and Ukrainians are considered a seperate ethnic group. The leaflets were probably distributed by Russian extremists. Even the plan to register "Ukrainians" seems impossible as the division between "Russian" and "Ukrainian" in the area is apparently very blurry.
    The leaflets targeted the Jews by name.

    It's an unnerving development in any case.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I never said that the reports were isolated. In fact I said the exact opposite.
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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I never said that the reports were isolated. In fact I said the exact opposite.
    Sorry, clumsy phrasing. I was agreeing with you.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

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    Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    Well, that's a headline you never want to see unless you're doing a history report on the lead-up to World War II.



    Ah, according to Israeli media. The order was probably given to everyone as some part of bizarre census and "Israeli media" are just making it out like Jews specifically were being targeted.



    Oh.



    Yes, Olga, you probably wouldn't, because that's how antisemitism rolls in Europe, West and East: something terrible is done to the Jews there, then a horror takes over at what has just been done and everyone learns their lesson for the next century (give or take a few years) until the whole thing happens all over again.

    Why Jews continue to remain especially in East Europe is a mystery to me.
    The intent is no different than making firearm owners register here in the United States.

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    Re: Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine

    This OP story gives me chills and it's not because of the temperature outside. It's almost as if these separatists were baiting the rest of the world by doing this and daring anyone to defy it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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