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Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

No, no I dont.

I dont live in a homeless shelter or on Skid Row and where in the hell do you live if your surrounded by drunks ?

The City I live in will send a stoner's ass to jail in a heartbeat.

Marijuana is NOT legal here and never will be.

How do you know if you're surrounded by drunks or not? How do you know if you're surrounded by stoners or not?

You come off as very small-minded.
 
No, no I dont.

I dont live in a homeless shelter or on Skid Row and where in the hell do you live if your surrounded by drunks ?

The City I live in will send a stoner's ass to jail in a heartbeat.

Marijuana is NOT legal here and never will be.

Guess what, you live surrounded by "stoners" already despite its legal status, yet do not even realize it. Same goes with drunks, this buzz free Utopia you think you live in is self delusion.

Not everyone who uses (and this does also include abuses) sticks out like a sore thumb, the vast majority go about their lives right under your nose while you are oblivious. You seem to be seizing upon a small segment at the extreme end of the bell curve and extrapolating that to all.

Edit: of course having read this thread these sloppy generalizations are a recurring theme from multiple posters.
 
How do you know if you're surrounded by drunks or not? How do you know if you're surrounded by stoners or not?

You come off as very small-minded.


I am how God intended me to be, SOBER.

If you're not into Faith then I am what evolution intended me to be, SOBER.

No, you are not designed to go through life in a perpetual drug addled haze of compromised intelligence.

You are not at your best or brightnest under the influence of mind altering chemicals and AGAIN, addiction doesn't just hurt the addict.

It tears Families apart, it ruins marriages and it cost lives.

The Left wing Politicians want their constituents to be stupid, compromised and dependent.

If they cant burn the books or keep their supporters from educating themselves out of their political influence they'll just refuse to enforce the laws that stop this self destructive poverty enhancing behaviour.

It SHOULD piss you people off, but you havn't woken up yet apparently.

Hard to do that when your'e perennially High.
 
I am how God intended me to be, SOBER.

If you're not into Faith then I am what evolution intended me to be, SOBER.

No, you are not designed to go through life in a perpetual drug addled haze of compromised intelligence.

You are not at your best or brightnest under the influence of mind altering chemicals and AGAIN, addiction doesn't just hurt the addict.

It tears Families apart, it ruins marriages and it cost lives.

The Left wing Politicians want their constituents to be stupid, compromised and dependent.

If they cant burn the books or keep their supporters from educating themselves out of their political influence they'll just refuse to enforce the laws that stop this self destructive poverty enhancing behaviour.

It SHOULD piss you people off, but you havn't woken up yet apparently.

Hard to do that when your'e perennially High.

You do not have a right to raise your children in a society where you lock people in cages for consuming a plant you disapprove of.

If you could point out where in the constitution or bible where you were granted this right, we'd love to see it. Please cite specific references.

I hate oregano. Do I have the right to lock you in a cage for consuming it?
 
I am how God intended me to be, SOBER.

If you're not into Faith then I am what evolution intended me to be, SOBER.

No, you are not designed to go through life in a perpetual drug addled haze of compromised intelligence.

You are not at your best or brightnest under the influence of mind altering chemicals and AGAIN, addiction doesn't just hurt the addict.

It tears Families apart, it ruins marriages and it cost lives.

The Left wing Politicians want their constituents to be stupid, compromised and dependent.

If they cant burn the books or keep their supporters from educating themselves out of their political influence they'll just refuse to enforce the laws that stop this self destructive poverty enhancing behaviour.

It SHOULD piss you people off, but you havn't woken up yet apparently.

Hard to do that when your'e perennially High.

Your ranting of right wing religious nonsense isn't going to do anything. Marijuana will be federally legal, just as alcohol already is, and there's nothing you can do about it besides move out of the country. Sorry.

But don't worry, I will guarantee you that even when it is legal nationally, there will not be any more stoners in this country than there is now.
 
I had a buddy in high school that was probably the brightest guy in our class, and he was extremely outgoing. He found pot, and within a year, he had no gleam in his eye. He became this blank, empty loner of a guy that I could hardly recognize.

It eats your brain, folks. Legal or not, it destroys who you are.

On a selfish note, it culls the herd for my kids, whom I'm confident find potheads to be as pathetic as I do.


Marijuana is comprised of 400+ chemicals. With each strain, the amounts of each chemical varies greatly.

Humans are comprised of 60 chemical elements with varying levels of each from one person to the next.

To say marijuana affects all people the same is plain idiocy. Studies like this are pointless. Your sample size of one hardly constitutes first-hand knowledge on the subject.
 
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Firstly you compared compounds to elements so that doesn't fly. Perhaps the best way to look at it is that the study did uncover what it says it uncovered but it is likely fair to say that the effects aren't as pronounced or disabling as the anti-weed groups tend to say. I don't think there is any question that nicotine is way more addictive and alcohol is much more disabling than marijuana. Probably best not to use it but it doesn't seem to be as terrible as some would like people to believe.
 
I am how God intended me to be, SOBER.

If you're not into Faith then I am what evolution intended me to be, SOBER.

No, you are not designed to go through life in a perpetual drug addled haze of compromised intelligence.

You are not at your best or brightnest under the influence of mind altering chemicals and AGAIN, addiction doesn't just hurt the addict.

It tears Families apart, it ruins marriages and it cost lives.

The Left wing Politicians want their constituents to be stupid, compromised and dependent.

If they cant burn the books or keep their supporters from educating themselves out of their political influence they'll just refuse to enforce the laws that stop this self destructive poverty enhancing behaviour.

It SHOULD piss you people off, but you havn't woken up yet apparently.

Hard to do that when your'e perennially High.

Everything you spouted out of your religious orifice in regards to marijuana can be said of alcohol. Do you remember your history?
Alcohol prohibition was tried for 13 years and the results are IN! It frikken failed.
Or do you believe alcohol prohibition was a success? If so please explain how so
 
Your ranting of right wing religious nonsense isn't going to do anything. Marijuana will be federally legal, just as alcohol already is, and there's nothing you can do about it besides move out of the country. Sorry.

But don't worry, I will guarantee you that even when it is legal nationally, there will not be any more stoners in this country than there is now.

So your a atheist AND a Pot head ?

Wow, you've got one bright future ahead of you.
 
You do not have a right to raise your children in a society where you lock
people in cages for consuming a plant you disapprove of.

If you could point out where in the constitution or bible where you were granted this right, we'd love to see it. Please cite specific references.

I hate oregano. Do I have the right to lock you in a cage for consuming it?

I would be OK Aplaca, with Marijuana being classified as a controlled substance and then giving Physicians the freedom to prescribe it for any variety of legitimate health issues.

Like yours for instance.

I will NEVER agree to the legalization of marijuana for the purpose of getting stoned.

It is a far powerful and dangerous drug than its made out to be, especially for the younger generations.
 
Everything you spouted out of your
religious orifice in regards to marijuana can be said of alcohol. Do you remember your history?
Alcohol prohibition was tried for 13 years and the results are IN! It frikken failed.
Or do you believe alcohol prohibition was a success? If so please explain how so

Who cares.

The comparison argument doesn't fly with me

Why would I or anyone want our communities flooded with a ADDITIONAL destructive substance via legalization ?
 
The war on drugs is over. Yet another of the many turdarrhea bestowed upon the American people courtesy of Ron and Nancy.
 
Who cares.

The comparison argument doesn't fly with me

Why would I or anyone want our communities flooded with a ADDITIONAL destructive substance via legalization ?

you have to demonstrate that it would result in anything more than a negligible increase in use. The historical precedent does not support this. Alaska in the 70's, Holland, Portugal, current medical marijuana states, all have at most a negligible increase of usage rates.

Those who are predisposed to smoke pot for the most part already do. Legalizing it also makes it more difficult for minors to attain, which increases the average age of first use, which in turn decreases the likelihood that an individual starts using in the first place, as well as lowers the likelihood that they will develop problematic usage habits if and when they do try it the first time.
 
So your a atheist AND a Pot head ?

Wow, you've got one bright future ahead of you.

I'm an atheist and have smoked a lot of pot in my day, though I only use it twice a year or so now. I also have a doctorate and a full time job that puts me in the top 6% of incomes in the nation. Barring the idea that I'll go to hell for my beliefs, do I not have a bright future?

I know your super conservative ideology doesn't jive with the idea that someone can believe differently than you and maybe even use a drug or two and still be a valuable member of society, but saying that that is not true is ignoring reality. For every person whose life was "destroyed" by marijuana (though I'll be you don't think anyone's life was destroyed by a gun, guns don't kill people, people kill people, myabe it should be marijuana doesn't ruin lives, people with no self control or sense of responsibility ruin lives, right?), there are 1000 who use it without having their lives destroyed, probably 10,000.

In my hospital, we on average have about 15 alcoholics in at any given time being treated for cirrhosis or delirium tremens. The DT people stay in the hospital for days and have thousands of dollars of drugs pumped into them just to keep them from seizing, shaking, and their blood pressure going through the roof. The cirrhosis patients have a death sentence and, let me tell you, it can be a very rough way to go. We might get 5 people a year coming in to the ER for "marijuana overdose", which is simply a person smoking too much marijuana and having a panic attack. You know what we do for those people? Give them a Xanax and send them home once they stop thinking they are having a heart attack. That's not a side effect of marijuana so much as it is an effect of an underlying anxiety disorder being exacerbated by marijuana.

There is absolutely no question that, compared to alcohol, marijuana is relatively harmless, yet one can be bought in any gas station or grocery store next to the Hall Mark cards and the other will land you in jail. It's an injustice.

There is so much hypocrisy in the Ultra Conservative position in regards to freedom. You guys spout about freedom to own guns, freedom from taxation, freedom from government regulation, etc, but when you are faced with someone who is acting on that freedom in a way that you don't agree with, you get scared. The gays, the atheist, the people who use drugs responsibly, that's freedom. Freedom to pursue happiness, freedom to believe or not believe the way you want, and freedom over your own body. Why is their individual freedom to pursue the things that are important to them and hurting no one any less important than the individual freedoms that are important to you?
 
So your a atheist AND a Pot head ?

Wow, you've got one bright future ahead of you.

I'm neither one of those things, especially not a pothead, I personally hate pot. Thank you. :)

But please feel free to show me evidence that an atheist and/or someone who likes pot can't have a bright future.
 
It is a far powerful and dangerous drug than its made out to be, especially for the younger generations.

Please show us evidence of this. We all know it's bull****, but I'm up for some entertainment.
 
Why would I or anyone want our communities flooded with a ADDITIONAL destructive substance via legalization ?

I problem with this point of view is that is pre-supposes marijuana use CAN be controlled. It simply can not. They've been trying for over 70 years, and marijuana use has only grown.

In contrast, tobacco has been legal for that entire time, and when it's dangers because widely understood, a combination of taxation and education campaigns have reduced usage considerably in less than 50 years.

So your options are to either make it worse by fighting it, or accept it as part of our culture and use more effective techniques to reduce abuse.
 
you have to demonstrate that it would
result in anything more than a negligible increase in use. The historical precedent does not support this. Alaska in the 70's, Holland, Portugal, current medical marijuana states, all have at most a negligible increase of usage rates.

Those who are predisposed to smoke pot for the most part already do. Legalizing it also makes it more difficult for minors to attain, which increases the average age of first use, which in turn decreases the likelihood that an individual starts using in the first place, as well as lowers the likelihood that they will develop problematic usage habits if and when they do try it the first time.

LOL !!

By legalizing it ? Hard to close those flood gates once the deluge has started.
 
I problem with this point of view is that
is pre-supposes marijuana use CAN be controlled. It simply can not. They've been trying for over 70 years, and marijuana use has only grown.

In contrast, tobacco has been legal for that entire time, and when it's dangers because widely understood, a combination of taxation and education campaigns have reduced usage considerably in less than 50 years.

So your options are to either make it worse by fighting it, or accept it as part of our culture and use more effective techniques to reduce abuse.

It sure can be controlled.

Wiped out ? No illegal drug use can be completely wipied out.

Keep it illegal unless prescribed, like any other controlled medication and then convict those who use and sell it

Sometimes perpetuating a stigma is the best you can hope for, but that stigma actually works
 
Please show us evidence of this. We all know it's bull****, but I'm up for some entertainment.

Hillarious that you're posting that in THIS thread.

Have you read the OP ?
 
I don't even believe Marijuana is a drug, it's a freaking plant.
 
LOL !!

By legalizing it ? Hard to close those flood gates once the deluge has started.

We are already in this so called "deluge", it started a long time ago. Go ahead show me evidence that refutes my point. Show me some data where a relaxation of the laws regarding marijuana has led to anything more than a negligible increase of usage rates.
 
I'm an atheist and have smoked a lot of pot in my day, though I only use it twice a year or so now. I also have a doctorate and a full time job that puts me in the top 6% of incomes in the nation. Barring the idea that I'll go to hell for my beliefs, do I not have a bright future?

I know your super conservative ideology doesn't jive with the idea that someone can believe differently than you and maybe even use a drug or two and still be a valuable member of society, but saying that that is not true is ignoring reality. For every person whose life was "destroyed" by marijuana (though I'll be you don't think anyone's life was destroyed by a gun, guns don't kill people, people kill people, myabe it should be marijuana doesn't ruin lives, people with no self control or sense of responsibility ruin lives, right?), there are 1000 who use it without having their lives destroyed, probably 10,000.

In my hospital, we on average have about 15 alcoholics in at any given time being treated for cirrhosis or delirium tremens. The DT people stay in the hospital for days and have thousands of dollars of drugs pumped into them just to keep them from seizing, shaking, and their blood pressure going through the roof. The cirrhosis patients have a death sentence and, let me tell you, it can be a very rough way to go. We might get 5 people a year coming in to the ER for "marijuana overdose", which is simply a person smoking too much marijuana and having a panic attack. You know what we do for those people? Give them a Xanax and send them home once they stop thinking they are having a heart attack. That's not a side effect of marijuana so much as it is an effect of an underlying anxiety disorder being exacerbated by marijuana.

There is absolutely no question that, compared to alcohol, marijuana is relatively harmless, yet one can be bought in any gas station or grocery store next to the Hall Mark cards and the other will land you in jail. It's an injustice.

There is so much hypocrisy in the Ultra Conservative position in regards to freedom. You guys spout about freedom to own guns, freedom from taxation, freedom from government regulation, etc, but when you are faced with someone who is acting on that freedom in a way that you don't agree with, you get scared. The gays, the atheist, the people who use drugs responsibly, that's freedom. Freedom to pursue happiness, freedom to believe or not believe the way you want, and freedom over your own body. Why is their individual freedom to pursue the things that are important to them and hurting no one any less important than the individual freedoms that are important to you?

If you have a doctorate then you should be able to READ THE OP.

So much for your opinion of how "harmless" marijuana is.
 
Yeah I read the OP. It's a bull**** study.

Good to see you have no intelligent response.

Because you disagree with it ? LOL !!
 
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