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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

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    Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds | Fox News



    Duh.

    I laugh every time I hear from pot smokers that marijuana use is completely harmless compared to alcohol. No one can possibly believe marijuana is the least bit harmless.

    I had a buddy in high school that was probably the brightest guy in our class, and he was extremely outgoing. He found pot, and within a year, he had no gleam in his eye. He became this blank, empty loner of a guy that I could hardly recognize.

    It eats your brain, folks. Legal or not, it destroys who you are.

    On a selfish note, it culls the herd for my kids, whom I'm confident find potheads to be as pathetic as I do.
    An exchange of absolutes. Potheads saying it does no damage, anti-pot camps saying it 'eats your brain', and neither are right. If you read what the study said, it indicated that the abnormalities found in the brains of pot smokers, even occasional ones, have an enlarged part of the brain that receives the signals that make you feel good when you smoke marijuana. And that's the point of the medical side to marijuana; it's promoting the part of the brain that some people have issues with.

    The things that matter about this are: marijuana is to some degree harmful, and it's not for everyone, and we have to understand it as part of a broader public health policy, but it's already much less harmful than other things that we leave to the discretion of mature adults already. I think Obama was right on in saying; it is in fact much less damaging that the effects of alcohol, but it's still an unhealthy vice and it's the governments job to help people understand that.
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    Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by phildozer9121 View Post
    I think Obama was right on in saying; it is in fact much less damaging that the effects of alcohol, but it's still an unhealthy vice and it's the governments job to help people understand that.
    I rarely agree with Obama on anything, but on this I do. Inhaling smoke of any kind into your lungs is never, and can never be 'harmless'. I'm all for unrestricted, unregulated complete legalization (and I don't even think it should be taxed), but in a way, I think it would be even more harmful if it were federally legal, because then we'd have big tobacco companies manufacturing it and adding hundreds of chemicals to it like they do to cigarettes.

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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

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    This statement was almost as ignorant as the one I originally responded to.
    And this statement is no more compelling than your first one.
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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, I don't think they or you are weak. I think they have an emotional disorder, which they do. I also think that quick fixes like anti-depressants have only made it worse for people suffering through depression. I've never been a fan of chemical fixes to chemical imbalances because I don't think it helps develop the proper coping skills.
    I'm not quite sure why it's an either/or choice. Why not fix the chemical imbalance, and address coping mechanisms? You can't will your brain into chemical balance, and it's important to know how to cope with that imbalance, but borderline cruel to expect people to simply suck it up and cope with the depression if there is an option to cure or temporarily alleviate the chemical imbalance at the heart of the problem.

    I could go into it, but I'm not guessing about this. I 'coped' with persistent but manageable depression for most of my adult life. It wasn't fun. When I took concrete steps to address the chemical imbalance at the heart of it, life improved enormously and has remained far better, and there was less need to cope with anything.

    I share the skepticism about SSRIs and other approaches, but being skeptical about ONE option to address the chemical balance says nothing about the benefits of attacking the problem at the source.

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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

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    Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds | Fox News



    Duh.

    I laugh every time I hear from pot smokers that marijuana use is completely harmless compared to alcohol. No one can possibly believe marijuana is the least bit harmless.

    I had a buddy in high school that was probably the brightest guy in our class, and he was extremely outgoing. He found pot, and within a year, he had no gleam in his eye. He became this blank, empty loner of a guy that I could hardly recognize.

    It eats your brain, folks. Legal or not, it destroys who you are.

    On a selfish note, it culls the herd for my kids, whom I'm confident find potheads to be as pathetic as I do.
    And what do the abnormalities mean?
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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds | Fox News



    Duh.

    I laugh every time I hear from pot smokers that marijuana use is completely harmless compared to alcohol. No one can possibly believe marijuana is the least bit harmless.

    I had a buddy in high school that was probably the brightest guy in our class, and he was extremely outgoing. He found pot, and within a year, he had no gleam in his eye. He became this blank, empty loner of a guy that I could hardly recognize.

    It eats your brain, folks. Legal or not, it destroys who you are.

    On a selfish note, it culls the herd for my kids, whom I'm confident find potheads to be as pathetic as I do.
    Absolute nonsense, your friend had another physical/psychological problem that you just did not know about. Or he was actually stoned when you saw him.
    There is no way that smoking some pot for a year will destroy your brain on it's own with no other mitigating circumstance...ZERO CHANCE.

    Prove me wrong with links to unbiased, factual proof.

    Guess what...you cannot.


    Is smoking a lot of pot bad for you? Of course it is. So is drinking a lot of alcohol and smoking and not exercising and over eating and too much stress and on and on. Even drinking too much water can kill you.

    But to say smoking any amount of it will 'destroy you' is ignorant nonsense.

    Too much of anything can 'destroy you'.

    But study after study shows that pot is less harmful the alcohol.

    And I have known MANY people that have smoked it for years and they seem just as much 'as they are' as they used to be.

    Please save your Reefer Madness, ignorance for the 1950's.


    Btw, I don't smoke dope (it makes me a bit paranoid)...so I am not biased.

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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Hands down, the smartest man I know is a habitual pot smoker. I mean multiple times daily. 7 days a week, 365 days a year. He can certainly hold his own in a debate of knowledge with the best of them, while under the influence. So this study to me has no basis in reality.
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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Hands down, the smartest man I know is a habitual pot smoker. I mean multiple times daily. 7 days a week, 365 days a year. He can certainly hold his own in a debate of knowledge with the best of them, while under the influence. So this study to me has no basis in reality.
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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    Hands down, the smartest man I know is a habitual pot smoker. I mean multiple times daily. 7 days a week, 365 days a year. He can certainly hold his own in a debate of knowledge with the best of them, while under the influence. So this study to me has no basis in reality.
    Have you given your friend a brain scan to see if the reported abnormalities exist? 'cause if you haven't, then you can't say he's unaffected by pot.
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    Re: Casual marijuana use linked with brain abnormalities, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm not quite sure why it's an either/or choice. Why not fix the chemical imbalance, and address coping mechanisms? You can't will your brain into chemical balance, and it's important to know how to cope with that imbalance, but borderline cruel to expect people to simply suck it up and cope with the depression if there is an option to cure or temporarily alleviate the chemical imbalance at the heart of the problem.

    I could go into it, but I'm not guessing about this. I 'coped' with persistent but manageable depression for most of my adult life. It wasn't fun. When I took concrete steps to address the chemical imbalance at the heart of it, life improved enormously and has remained far better, and there was less need to cope with anything.

    I share the skepticism about SSRIs and other approaches, but being skeptical about ONE option to address the chemical balance says nothing about the benefits of attacking the problem at the source.
    From my experience the methods we have to compensate for the chemical imbalance and then trying to learn coping techniques is like giving a person a case of beer and asking them to drive a car.
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