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    White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    '(Reuters) - The White House on Monday warned that Russia would face more "costs" for its interventions in Ukraine and confirmed that the director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, was in Kiev over the weekend.'

    White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev | Reuters

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    I wonder what that could be about. Here's an interesting story

    Mercenaries? CIA Says Expanded Role for Contractors Legitimate - ABC News

    Mercenaries? CIA Says Expanded Role for Contractors Legitimate

    The CIA and the military special forces have quietly expanded the role of private contractors, including Blackwater, to include their involvement in raids and secret paramilitary operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, four current and former U.S. military and intelligence officers tell ABC News.

    American law specifically prohibits the use of private soldiers or mercenaries in combat, according to Jonathan Turley, a professor of public interest law at George Washington University.

    "The United States Congress has never approved the use of private contractors for combat operations," Turley told ABC News in an interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC World News with Charles Gibson.

    CIA officials acknowledge that two private contractors were killed in Afghanistan in 2003 when they and other members of a CIA paramilitary team were in a firefight with Taliban fighters on a remote road.

    In another case, in 2006, 12 Blackwater "tactical action operatives" were recruited for a secret raid into Pakistan by the U.S. military's Joint Special Operations Command, according to a military intelligence planner. The target of the planned raid, code-named Vibrant Fury, was a suspected al Qaeda training camp, according to the planner, who said he did not know the outcome of the mission.

    In Iraq, a high-ranking U.S. Army officer told ABC News, Blackwater personnel have been used in military operations that "are supposed to include U.S. soldiers but often end up with the Blackwater people on their own."

    The New York Times reported Friday that such raids against Iraqi insurgents were conducted "almost nightly" between 2004 and 2006, and it quoted several Blackwater guards as saying "the operations became so routine that the lines supposedly dividing the Central Intelligence Agency, the military and Blackwater became blurred."
    "A Very Serious Offense to Our Constitution"

    The Washington Post today quoted former government officials as saying Blackwater's actions included "active participation in raids overseen by CIA or special forces personnel."
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    A U.S. Army officer who ran human intelligence collections activities in Afghanistan in 2003, Tony Shaffer, says he never worked directly with Blackwater personnel but frequently encountered them in secret operations run by the military and the CIA.

    "I actually met with the CIA and Blackwater operatives who were working together, totally hand in glove, to conduct operational planning and support of their objectives, which are paramilitary operations along the border," said Shaffer, then a Major but now a Lieutenant Colonel who teaches at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies.

    "The idea was to bring to bear additional resources for specific special operations missions," he said. "The purpose for that, in my judgment, may have been to avoid some level of oversight."

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    Russia has made the accusation that American mercenaries were operating with Ukrainian security forces. Could this visit have any connection?

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Maybe they were there to fix the reset button?
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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    we need to pave some roads, hire people to work, and replace our transportation energy model. we should not be wasting resources on a pissing match with Russia.

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    Maybe they were there to fix the reset button?
    Ain't no nobody talkin bout no reset no mo

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    we need to pave some roads, hire people to work, and replace our transportation energy model. we should not be wasting resources on a pissing match with Russia.
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    It is unfortunate that such notions are as the voice of one crying in the wilderness.

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
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    It is unfortunate that such notions are as the voice of one crying in the wilderness.
    there are a lot of people who are tired of this kind of stuff. we just need to organize a bit better.

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    there are a lot of people who are tired of this kind of stuff. we just need to organize a bit better.
    Actually there are people on the left and right that feel that way. Unfortunately, if you say this type of stuff these days you are labeled as sympathizing with the enemy or weak.

    It's very sad when the truth goes out of style.

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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Doing absolutely nothing now might cost thousands of American lives later.
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    Re: White House confirms, downplays CIA director visit to Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Doing absolutely nothing now might cost thousands of American lives later.
    The problem is that when people don't fully understand what they are doing, they make mistakes. Doing the wrong thing is what will cost American lives in the future. The responsible use of power requires an accurate assessment of it's limits. That is something that we fail at miserably here in the US.

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