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    Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    There is no greater force for Muzzling Free speech in America than Liberal Academia.
    Brandeis, a liberal and Jewish-sponsored high end institution, has hosted Israel critics and anti-semites, but has withdrawn it's invitation to honor the Heroic Ayaan Hirsi Ali at it's commencement.

    As well as being a critic of Radical Islam, She has said some critical things about Islam in general. Yup, and all True they are too.

    The Snakes at CAIR apparently had a big hand in the withdrawal.


    Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali (+video) - CSMonitor.com
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    Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former member of the Dutch Parliament, is known for her feminist work but also for her criticism of Islam, which she called a 'destructive, nihilistic cult of death.'
    By Elizabeth Barber, Staff Writer / April 9, 2014

    Under fire from students and Muslim activists, Brandeis University has canceled plans to present Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the feminist and prominent critic of Islam, with an honorary degree at its commencement ceremonies in May, saying some of her statements were at odds with the school’s “core values.”

    Ms. Ali, a native of Somalia and a former member of the Dutch Parliament, is known for her feminist work but also for her anti-Islam views, including such comments as calling the religion a “destructive, nihilistic cult of death.”

    “She is a compelling public figure and advocate for women’s rights, and we respect and appreciate her work to protect and defend the rights of women and girls throughout the world,” Brandeis said in a statement Tuesday.

    “That said, we cannot overlook certain of her past statements that are inconsistent with Brandeis University's core values.”
    The university said it would welcome Ali “to join us on campus in the future to engage in a dialogue about these important issues.”
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    Islam Critic: Brandeis Turned Honor Into a Shaming

    Islam Critic: Brandeis Turned Honor Into a Shaming - ABC News

    and many more we will hopefully get to down the string.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Brandeis University’s Double Standard on Honorary degrees
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...uble-standard/
    BY DAVID BERNSTEIN
    April 9 -WashPost
    A few years back, Brandeis University awarded an honorary degree to Tony Kushner. This was controversial because Brandeis is a Jewish-sponsored (but non-sectarian) university that has historically had very close ties to Israel. Indeed, the university’s namesake, Justice Brandeis, led the American Zionist movement for some time. Kushner, meanwhile, was not only known for his hostility to Israel in general, but for making inflammatory statements such as “The biggest supporters of Israel are the most repulsive members of the Jewish community,” a direct insult to Brandeis’s many faculty, students, alumni, and donors who are strong supporters of Israel.

    Despite objections, Brandeis went ahead with the award, with the university president explaining:

    Brandeis bestows honorary degrees as a means of acknowledging the outstanding accomplishments or contributions of individual men and women in any of a number of fields of human endeavor. Just as Brandeis does not inquire into the political opinions and beliefs of faculty or staff before appointing them, or students before offering admission, so too the University does not select honorary degree recipients on the basis of their political beliefs or opinions.

    Fast forward to today’s news. Brandeis University has decided to withdraw its planned award of an honorary degree to Ayaan Hirsa Ali, a well-known defender of women’s rights in the Islamic world. A university statement explains: “She is a compelling public figure and advocate for women’s rights, and we respect and appreciate her work to protect and defend the rights of women and girls throughout the world. That said, we cannot overlook certain of her past statements that are inconsistent with Brandeis University’s core values.” (Ali, who was raised Muslim but now identifies with no religion, has often criticized Islam, sometimes quite harshly.)

    If it’s true that the university wasn’t aware of Ali’s well-known public statements about Islam before it decided to grant her an honorary degree, that’s rather embarrassing. Worse yet, juxtaposing the Kushner and Ali situations, it turns out that the university DOES award honorary degrees based on the potential honoree’s opinions. And apparently, while expressing hostility to Islam conflicts with Brandeis’s “core values,” engaging in vile insults against American Jews who support Israel does not.

    For what it’s worth, if I were King I’d abolish honorary degrees entirely, and choose commencement speakers who won’t use the opportunity to advance an ideological agenda. But meanwhile, not to put too fine a point on it, it seems we’ve learned that Brandeis’s “core values” include the idea that offensive speech from politically correct sources like Kushner is not disqualifying for an honorary degree, but offensive speech that is not politically correct like Ali’s is disqualifying.

    The Shame of Brandeis

    And of a culture that has lost its way
    By Charles C. W. Cooke
    APRIL 10, 2014 4:00 AM
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rles-c-w-cooke

    The progression is becoming miserably familiar: first, an invitation is proffered to someone of heterodox views; next, the forces of conformity congeal and solidify, circulating petitions, banging drums, and rambling about justice and what you will; then the would-be host begins to worry, announcing meekly that it is reviewing its options; and finally, the invitation is shamefully revoked, usually under the paradoxical auspices of broadmindedness and inclusion. “We’re sorry,” the typical explanation runs, “but we’re too permissive to allow your sort.”

    This week’s target was the atheist and women’s-rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali, whose invitation to Brandeis University’s commencement ceremony was rescinded after pressure from an array of bleeding hearts threatened to turn the event into a learning experience. “Following a discussion today between President Frederick Lawrence and Ayaan Hirsi Ali,” Brandeis confirmed yesterday afternoon, “Ms. Hirsi Ali’s name has been withdrawn as an honorary degree recipient at this year’s commencement.” And that, as they say, was that.

    Those who have remarked reflexively that they could not imagine a university giving in to pressure leveled against a staunch critic of Christianity or Judaism presumably do not know just how right they are.

    Responding to criticism after it elected to confer an honorary degree on Tony Kushner — a playwright who has admitted to having “a problem with the idea of a Jewish state” and to believing that “the biggest supporters of Israel are the most repulsive members of the Jewish community” —
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    I agree freedom of speech is a good thing, because you can find out people's true intentions. Check out this interesting meeting at a nice hotel in Jerusalem. Saying how it is ok to kill Gentiles including children.


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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    They declined to give her an honorary degree. I fail to see the issue with that. At the same time, while I cannot speak for other criticisms, it is most definitely not accurate to describe Islam as a "destructive, nihilistic cult of death" and that is an understandable cause for denying her the honor.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    They declined to give her an honorary degree. I fail to see the issue with that. At the same time, while I cannot speak for other criticisms, it is most definitely not accurate to describe Islam as a "destructive, nihilistic cult of death" and that is an understandable cause for denying her the honor.
    Calling Islam a destructive, nihilistic cult of death is freedom of speech and not such a great exaggeration as far as women, her main issue, is concerned. If Muslims want to upgrade their image they might first do something about their infamous treatment of women, rather than attacking people who dare speak out about it..

    Hirsa Ali is one of the bravest people in the world and under constant threat from Muslims trying to kill her. She needs 24 hour protection from them.

    Brandeis made their move out of fear from Islamists, just as the media and Comedy Central folded for the same reasons when they were threatened. The MSM stopped reporting Muslim atrocities long ago.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    More faux outrage.

    from your link;
    The university said it would welcome Ali “to join us on campus in the future to engage in a dialogue about these important issues


    Muzzling Free speech in America
    If you want muzzling of free speech look at pro Israeli lobbyists with their futile attempts to threaten universities that allow anti Israeli activism within their campuses with cuts in funding.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Calling Islam a destructive, nihilistic cult of death is freedom of speech and not such a great exaggeration as far as women, her main issue, is concerned.
    No Muslim women that I know feel that Islam is a "destructive, nihilistic cult of death".

    Of course, most of the Muslim women I know live and work in the NY/NJ area.

    Ms. Ali's experience with Islam in Somalia, Saudi Arabia, and Kenya might be significantly different.

    If so, I would think that he argument with Islam might be tied to practice of the religion within Middle Eastern or African social/cultural/economic/political paradigm.

    You don't need to spend a lot of time scouring the world's information resources to find plentiful examples of women (and children) in the Middle Eastern or African world being treated like property (at best).

    Since Muslims in the West generally don't practice a "destructive, nihilistic cult of death" brand of Islam, but people in the Middle Eastern or African regardless of religion seem to have a penchant for turning darn near anything into a "destructive, nihilistic cult of death", maybe we should be looking at the regions where destructive Islam is practiced rather than at the religion itself?
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    I see we have another example of right wingers demonstrating their failure to understand the First Amendment, and how it doesn't limit private entities.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    There is no greater force for Muzzling Free speech in America than Liberal Academia.
    Brandeis, a liberal and Jewish-sponsored high end institution, has hosted Israel critics and anti-semites, but has withdrawn it's invitation to honor the Heroic Ayaan Hirsi Ali at it's commencement.

    As well as being a critic of Radical Islam, She has said some critical things about Islam in general. Yup, and all True they are too.

    The Snakes at CAIR apparently had a big hand in the withdrawal.


    Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali
    Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali (+video) - CSMonitor.com
    (+video)
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former member of the Dutch Parliament, is known for her feminist work but also for her criticism of Islam, which she called a 'destructive, nihilistic cult of death.'
    By Elizabeth Barber, Staff Writer / April 9, 2014


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    Also
    Islam Critic: Brandeis Turned Honor Into a Shaming

    Islam Critic: Brandeis Turned Honor Into a Shaming - ABC News

    and many more we will hopefully get to down the string.
    Brandeis University is not the arbiter of free speech. By Brandeis choosing to have an anti-radical Islamic critic not speak at commencement in no way limits the critics ability to speak to thousands of other forums in which her words would be heard; is in no way a limit of free speech.


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