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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right. You use another forum to express your strong feelings for human rights.
    1. When have I spoken out here against human rights?

    2. Who said anything about a forum?

    What, exactly, is your point? That because I'm not spamming tales of women being mistreated in the Muslim world, that I somehow approve of it? Or what? How much luggage, exactly, should I pack for this guilt trip?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Another on Target piece by the courageous one.

    Here's What I Would Have Said at Brandeis

    We need to make our universities temples not of dogmatic orthodoxy, but of truly critical thinking.
    By AYAAN HIRSI ALI
    April 10, 2014
    Wall Street Journal (+Video)
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...93410287663906

    On Tuesday, after protests by students, faculty and outside groups, Brandeis University revoked its invitation to Ayaan Hirsi Ali to receive an honorary degree at its commencement ceremonies in May. The protesters accused Ms. Hirsi Ali, an advocate for the rights of women and girls, of being "Islamophobic." Here is an abridged version of the remarks she planned to deliver.

    One year ago, the city and suburbs of Boston were still in mourning.....
    [..........] You deserve better memories than 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing. And you are not the only ones. In Syria, at least 120,000 people have been killed, not simply in battle, but in wholesale massacres, in a civil war that is increasingly waged across a sectarian divide. Violence is escalating in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Libya, in Egypt. And far more than was the case when you were born, organized violence in the world today is disproportionately concentrated in the Muslim world.

    Another striking feature of the countries I have just named, and of the Middle East generally, is that violence against women is also increasing. In Saudi Arabia, there has been a noticeable rise in the practice of female genital mutilation. In Egypt, 99% of women report being sexually harassed and up to 80 sexual assaults occur in a single day. - Especially troubling is the way the status of women as second-class citizens is being cemented in legislation. In Iraq, a law is being proposed that lowers to 9 the legal age at which a girl can be forced into marriage. That same law would give a husband the right to deny his wife permission to leave the house.

    Sadly, the list could go on [.....]
    Two decades ago, not even the bleakest pessimist would have anticipated all that has gone wrong in the part of world where I grew up. After so many victories for feminism in the West, no one would have predicted that women's basic human rights would actually be reduced in so many countries as the 20th century gave way to the 21st. - Today, however, I am going to predict a better future, because I believe that the pendulum has swung almost as far as it possibly can in the wrong direction.
    [..........]
    The connection between violence, particularly violence against women, and Islam is too clear to be ignored.
    We do no favors to students, faculty, nonbelievers and people of faith when we shut our eyes to this link, when we excuse rather than reflect.
    So I ask: Is the concept of Holy War compatible with our ideal of religious toleration? Is it blasphemy—punishable by death—to question the applicability of certain seventh-century doctrines to our own era? Both Christianity and Judaism have had their eras of reform. I would argue that the time has come for a Muslim Reformation.

    Is such an argument inadmissible? It surely should not be at a university that was founded in the wake of the Holocaust, at a time when many American universities still imposed quotas on Jews.
    The motto of Brandeis University is "Truth even unto its innermost parts." That is My motto too. For it is only through truth, unsparing truth, that your generation can hope to do better than mine in the struggle for peace, freedom and equality of the sexes.
    Ms. Hirsi Ali is the author of "Nomad: My Journey from Islam to America" (Free Press, 2010).
    She is a fellow at the Belfer Center of Harvard's Kennedy School and a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Another on Target piece by the courageous one.

    Here's What I Would Have Said at Brandeis

    We need to make our universities temples not of dogmatic orthodoxy, but of truly critical thinking.
    By AYAAN HIRSI ALI
    April 10, 2014
    Wall Street Journal (+Video)
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Here's What I Would Have Said at Brandeis - WSJ.com

    On Tuesday, after protests by students, faculty and outside groups, Brandeis University revoked its invitation to Ayaan Hirsi Ali to receive an honorary degree at its commencement ceremonies in May. The protesters accused Ms. Hirsi Ali, an advocate for the rights of women and girls, of being "Islamophobic." Here is an abridged version of the remarks she planned to deliver.


    Ms. Hirsi Ali is the author of "Nomad: My Journey from Islam to America" (Free Press, 2010).
    She is a fellow at the Belfer Center of Harvard's Kennedy School and a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.
    Would we prefer our daughters to grow up with the strength, courage and intelligence of Hirsi Ali or the cowardice demonstrated by the President and much of the faculty at Brandeis University?

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Would we prefer our daughters to grow up with the strength, courage and intelligence of Hirsi Ali or the cowardice demonstrated by the President and much of the faculty at Brandeis University?
    What in the flying **** does the President have to do with this story? Just another cheap, hackish partisan shot. Nothing new.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is only one religion commonly associated with terrorism and the serious abuse of women and that is Islam.
    Are you sure you want to stick by that statement?
    "For what is Evil but Good-tortured by its own hunger and thirst?"
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMoonlight View Post
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of my modern day heros.
    I would suggest having a better criteria, notice how many times the words Jew/antisemitism and Israel pop up in the first page?
    its no surprise, almost all of those people who make a career out of being specifically antimuslim tend to be on a payroll.

    She is a liar who got deported from her country because of her lies that caught up with her.

    Having been raised in Islam, she knows exactly what it really is and what it teaches and she is outspoken because of this. She is an amazing woman. It does not matter really, that she is denied a voice at this particular venue
    You should at least read the op if you are not going to read the source, they decided not to give her an honorary degree, they didn't ban her from ever speaking at the university
    The university said it would welcome Ali “to join us on campus in the future to engage in a dialogue about these important issues.”
    "Islam is a religion of peace" and "there are degrees of Islam and 'extremists' don't represent Islam" nonsense the Western world is being fed.
    Islam's main source is basically a plagiarized short version of the bible. Anything that you can come up with that is horrible from Islamic teaching can probably be matched to something from the bible, I don't see why you do not therefor allow for Muslims to be hypocrites about their religions like you allow Christians and Jews to be. American Muslims are less likely to be violent or support violence against civilians than the average American Christian or Jewish person, If they want to believe that their religion is one of peace they should be entitled to, they are hardly the only hypocrites when it comes to their religion, its no different than alll the people who claim that the Westboro Baptist Church is not a true representative of Christianity.

    but I really don't care. The only satisfaction I will have is knowing that Westerners who just do not have a clue about Islam will be the first to be annihilated, all the time protesting that "it isn't right", and "what did I do, I supported you".
    Muslims are not taking over the world, you can relax.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What in the flying **** does the President have to do with this story? Just another cheap, hackish partisan shot. Nothing new.
    We are talking on Brandeis and the President of Brandeis. It has nothing to do with Obama.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Are you sure you want to stick by that statement?
    I'd double down on it.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We are talking on Brandeis and the President of Brandeis. It has nothing to do with Obama.
    Ah, I misunderstood what was meant by "President." My b.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by L0neW0lf View Post
    She is a liar who got deported from her country because of her lies that caught up with her.
    That is false.

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    American Muslims are less likely to be violent or support violence against civilians than the average American Christian or Jewish person
    That's quite true, but there isn't a Muslim majority in the US.

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