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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    she lied to get herself out of Somalia and into the West.
    She's not a "liar" and is Not wrong about Islam.
    YOU are wrong about Islam.
    no I am not and she went to the Netherlands from Kenya where she had lived for years.....



    Which is absolutely TRUE.
    Scores of Links available, including info I already posted in the string.
    Islam applauds murder of it's critics, apostates, and assorted other 'sinners'. (like gays and adulterers)
    It's in the book.
    The problem is the great Majority/Mainstream/Literal Islam, not a few terrorists that it inevitably spawns.
    No it is a bigoted lie to say all Islam is responsible for the fanatics....

    Also true. Bravo Ayaan!
    That would be near the same opinion of practicing Muslim reformer, Irshad Manji. (whose life is also in Danger, even in Canada)
    Both (and me) have called for a Muslim Reformation such a happened to Christianity 500 years ago.
    Radical fringes don't need reformations, Mainstream Islam does.
    Of course, Islam had a 'reformation' a century or two ago and that's called Wahhabism.
    Ooops!
    You are the ignorant her and her ilk use.....


    No, her life story is by-and-large true.
    The woman who escaped Standard Literal Islam (not even 'Radical' islam) and his a hero for speaking out.
    Your posts, otoh, are lies.
    Then why did she admit it isn't......

    BS.
    There are other religious groups "who do that" but not amounting to 1% of what Islam does.
    People die every day in the Name of Islam from Mauritania to Mindinao.
    So to suggest some sort of equivalence is a Raging deception: your PC purpose here.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Posted before I finished. There are Christian militia in Africa killing people for simply not being Christian......those are ignored.
    Bombings are common...so what are you talking about?

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Posted before I finished. There are Christian militia in Africa killing people for simply not being Christian......those are ignored.
    Bombings are common...so what are you talking about?
    Did you notice in your "reply" above..
    You put up one sentence/phrase in EMPTY denial for every FOUR I put up with MEAT Backing what I said.
    Nonsensical and goofy use/Abuse of the multiquote.
    I backed what I said with facts...
    You said NOTHING but "No".

    Your posts a total and intellectually bankrupt Washout.
    All points With Backing I made within, you Just had one-line "no".
    It's Juvenile FRAUD and not coherent or literate either.


    Quote Originally Posted by sababa
    Posted before I finished. There are Christian militia in Africa killing people for simply not being Christian......those are ignored. Bombings are common...so what are you talking about?
    Duh Yeah, I know.
    A Militia in Africa: which is NOT Comparable, AGAIN, the WORLDWIDE daily, Persecution, Cleansing, and Killing of non-Muslims minorities and neighbors by Mainstream Muslims and their Governments.
    Christians have been, and are being cleansed from many Muslim countries, especially Arab ones.
    (Sudan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Pakistan, Philippines, etc, etc)
    Apostates, Adulterers, and Islam critics too are persecuted, cleansed, Killed. Legally. (not counted below)

    Oh yes, the toll:
    Quote Originally Posted by thereligionofpeace.com

    Weekly Jihad Report
    Apr 05 - Apr 11

    Jihad Attacks: 50
    Allahu Akbars*: 5 (suicide bombings)
    Dead Bodies: 594
    Critically Injured: 582
    Quote Originally Posted by thereligionofpeace.com
    Monthly Jihad Report
    March, 2014

    Jihad Attacks: 216
    Countries:.. 19
    Religions: . ... . 5
    Dead Bodies:: 1479

    Critically Injured: 2093
    List of attacks committed ONLY in the Name of Islam (vs non-Muslims or Muslims of other sects. Not random crime)
    Last 30 days Only
    I count something like 150-200 attacks in 15-20 Countries. Maybe 2000 dead, just another Month.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
    -- Date --- Country ---- - -- - Killed - Injured
    2014.04.16 Nigeria Wala -- - -- 18 - 7 Eighteen people are slaughtered by militants fighting for Islamic law.
    2014.04.15 -- Iraq - Baiji -- -- -- 2 - 0 Two brothers bleed to death following a Mujahideen bombing.
    2014.04.14 Nigeria Abuja - - -- 86 257 Activists for an Islamic state slaughter over eighty innocents at a bus stop with a massive bomb blast.
    2014.04.14 Syria Maaloula - - -- 3 - -0 Three Shia journalists are picked off by Sunni gunmen.
    2014.04.14 Israel Hevron ------- 1 -- 4 Terrorists kill a Jewish man in front of his family.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Funny you don't know anything about her if you didn't know he admitted she was a liar and resigned from Parliament.
    In fact that is common knowledge. Read her biography.
    But that is what this woman is doing to Islam.........
    The woman is doing nothing to Islam.
    When she said [It is not] "a fringe group of radical Muslims who've hijacked Islam and that the majority of Muslims are moderate. [...] Violence is inherent in Islam – it's a destructive, nihilistic cult of death. It legitimates murder." From Reason Magazine Interview:
    Reason: Do you think Islam could bring about similar social and political changes?
    Hirsi Ali: Only if Islam is defeated. Because right now, the political side of Islam, the power-hungry expansionist side of Islam, has become superior to the Sufis and the Ismailis and the peace-seeking Muslims.

    Reason: Don’t you mean defeating radical Islam?
    Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it’s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They’re not interested in peace.

    Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?
    Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. (emphasis added.)
    Where do you have a problem with this?



    maybe there is compelling stories, but her life story was a lie.....so...........
    No, her life story is not a lie. Drop the Al-taqiyya.
    no there are some Muslims who do that.......but here is the thing....that is true of other groups as well.
    other groups who murder Gays? Murder women who commit adultery? Saying other groups are just as ignorant of human rights as Muslims isn't much of an endorsement.

    ??????????? So you would say that I have a right to be there?
    Please re-read the sentence. It is very straightforward.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Did you notice in your "reply" above..
    You put up one sentence/phrase in EMPTY denial for every FOUR I put up with MEAT Backing what I said.
    Nonsensical and goofy use/Abuse of the multiquote.
    I backed what I said with facts...
    You said NOTHING but "No".

    Your posts a total and intellectually bankrupt Washout.
    All points With Backing I made within, you Just had one-line "no".
    It's Juvenile FRAUD and not coherent or literate either.


    Duh Yeah, I know.
    A Militia in Africa: which is NOT Comparable, AGAIN, the WORLDWIDE daily, Persecution, Cleansing, and Killing of non-Muslims minorities and neighbors by Mainstream Muslims and their Governments.
    Christians have been, and are being cleansed from many Muslim countries, especially Arab ones.
    (Sudan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Pakistan, Philippines, etc, etc)
    Apostates, Adulterers, and Islam critics too are persecuted, cleansed, Killed. Legally. (not counted below)

    Oh yes, the toll:


    List of attacks committed ONLY in the Name of Islam (vs non-Muslims or Muslims of other sects. Not random crime)
    Last 30 days Only
    I count something like 150-200 attacks in 15-20 Countries. Maybe 2000 dead, just another Month.

    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
    when you go to hate sites like this to get your "facts" no wonder you like this woman.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    when you go to hate sites like this to get your "facts" no wonder you like this woman.
    It seems that anywhere the truth about islam is published it is either threatened for destruction or declared a 'hate site'. You seem to suffer, as do many muslims, from Hirsialiphobia. Or Truthophobia.Or Femaleophobia.Of course there are many other phobias within the Islamic community, and they are evident everywhere.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Sorry, Captain Courtesy, but when billions of people gather together and call themselves Communists we are obliged to call them Communists by their definition, not yours. The same is true of Socialists and Fascists. They were referred to everywhere as "The Communist World" and anyone who was critical, such as Ronald Reagan, was called 'extreme right wing.

    Sorry Grant, but you are incorrect. What they called themselves is irrelevant. The ideology they practiced is what is relevant. Most right wingers have no idea exactly what communism is. You seem to be no exception. Communistic forms of government always turn into fascist states. Human psychology dictates that.

    Leftists are always trying to rewrite history but it's a little too early in the case of Communism. Wait a generation or two and then you might get away with calling Fascist and National Socialists 'right wing' but the memory of Communism is still too fresh in everyone's minds.
    We've already established that it is right wingers that attempt to rewrite history. We saw you do it on the issue of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the fact that it has always been conservatives who were the ideology of racism. This is no exception.

    Again, You seem unclear on Mussolini's past otr the definition of Fascism itself.
    No, I've posted excerpts from Mussolini's writing here at DP plenty of times. He denounces socialism, and left wing ideology. For Mussolini, fascism was certainly right wing.

    So they did not call themselves Democrats but instead were the conservative party? The problem with you renaming these political movements to suit your own definitions is that history inevitably becomes distorted, and untrue. You might want to call them 'conservative Democrats' but to ignore their political party is to ignore history.
    Conservatives are what they were. I am fairly uninterested in whether they were Democrats or Republicans. The party of which they belonged is pretty evident.

    Yes, maybe I will. But if you want to see the left lie, turn history on its head and silence others, it inevitably comes from the left.
    No, it comes from the right. Historical revisionism is what the right does.

    Here's an interesting article. I don't expect you to read it but there might be many independents who might give it a go. The "Safe Space" is Where Cultures Go to Die :: SteynOnline
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    Re: Brandeis University withdraws planned honorary degree for Islam critic Ayaan Hirs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right. You never read it.
    No, I read it. And I dismissed it as partisan crap. The right does the exact same thing. Remember the wars? Try to say something negative against them. How about during the 2004 Republican National Convention? People were arrested for protesting LEGALLY. How about gay marriage? Or what about when the Dixie Chicks spoke out against the war? The right is always trying to shut down disagreement.

    I have been talking of how speech and diversity of opinion are important in any institute of learning. Please use the quote system..
    You changed your position when your original position on free speech was laughed at.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Leftist analogies never really work. You should avoid them altogether.
    Conservatives always ignore analogies that show them to not know what they are talking about. It's called denial.

    So you remain unaware that the University was pressured from CAIR and other Muslim groups?
    Which is irrelevant and goes to my analogy that you conveniently avoided. BRANDEIS made the decision. Whether they received pressure or feedback is irrelevant to that point.

    She will never be invited to another American University. Pressure from Islamic groups have again won the day and they will continue to do so.
    You really shouldn't speak in absolutes. Further, if she doesn't, it is the decision of the Universities. Keep that in mind.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I believe Sangha is correct. Perhaps you should take it up with him.
    You made the comment. I'm taking it up with you.
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