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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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    No, it was not. That would be communism.
    No, that wouldn't. Communism hasn't existed. Any attempt at communism has turned into fascism.

    No. As their names suggest, as well as their history, they were left wing movements.
    This is just conservative revisionism. Mussolini himself, the father or modern fascism, rejected the left wing. Fascism is a right wing movement.

    By that I suppose you mean \Democrat.
    No, I mean conservatives.

    It's been the left, and there are many examples.
    No, it's been the right, and there have been MANY examples. Go over to stormfront for confirmation of this.
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    Re: Brandeis University withdraws planned honorary degree for Islam critic Ayaan Hirs

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    CC its true the NR is partisan but the headline I posted is right on the money I don't care who posted it.
    There is nothing wrong with the facts of the article. Your interpretation is completely in error as has been shown.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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    Yes, they have. By folding under pressure from CAIR and other Muslim groups other Universities will be fearful of inviting Hirsi Ali to speak. This is the way they silence dissent. Muslims have used these same tactics through the courts, through threats, or by actually murdering people who are critical of Islam.
    And is then the actions of THOSE that do not ask her to speak that are the issue, not those who protested of her speaking. Let's put it this way... let's say that a business decides that they will not serve gays and members of the community do not like this policy, speak out about it, and encourage others to not shop there... which they don't, which causes the business to go bankrupt. Should that be allowed to happen? Who's responsibility is it for the business going bankrupt?

    She already has to be under guard 24 hours a day for speaking out and by denying her a forum, despite their initial invitation, it only reinforces the understanding that it is Muslims who will decide what is going to be said on the subject of misogyny in Islam and not a place of learning which used to stand for the right to expand human knowledge.
    Muslims didn't decide what is going to be said. Brandeis decided to not let her speak at this venue. She can still speak on the internet, in books, and anywhere else that will accept her.

    If she cannot speak at American Universities because of Muslim threats, where do you think she is safe to speak?
    ONE University.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems that freedom of speech and diversity of opinion have become associated with the right while stifling speech remain a part of the left wing dogma. This is not new.
    Actually, the reverse is true.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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    No, that wouldn't. Communism hasn't existed. Any attempt at communism has turned into fascism.
    Why am I not surprised that you're one of the those.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Why do people scream and shout about their religious freedoms being attacked and then endorse someone who discourages another religion.

    Muslims are not part of a destructive nihilistic cult of death. And anyway, how could Muslims be nihilistic and Muslims? That literally makes no sense.

    On September 11th, 2001, my mom was working at Goldman Sachs a few blocks away from the WTC. When the buildings came down the building was evacuated, but she couldn't come home to Jersey because the bridges were immediately shut down. So she walked a few blocks over and stayed with her Muslim friend Allah.

    Whenever I hear anti-Islamic hate speech I recount this story. It's bulls**t. Thinly veiled racism and intolerance.

    The American people should never give credence to these ideas or give them a platform on which to speak.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    By the way, I always see people equating liberalism with higher education.


    The fact that academics, (A.K.A. the learned) are overwhelmingly liberal...What does that say to you?

    Just saying...
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Why am I not surprised that you're one of the those.
    I don't think Communism would work, but really, he's right.

    If you've actually read any early communist literature, you'd know it too.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean.McDonnell View Post
    Why do people scream and shout about their religious freedoms being attacked and then endorse someone who discourages another religion.

    Muslims are not part of a destructive nihilistic cult of death. And anyway, how could Muslims be nihilistic and Muslims? That literally makes no sense.

    On September 11th, 2001, my mom was working at Goldman Sachs a few blocks away from the WTC. When the buildings came down the building was evacuated, but she couldn't come home to Jersey because the bridges were immediately shut down. So she walked a few blocks over and stayed with her Muslim friend Allah.

    Whenever I hear anti-Islamic hate speech I recount this story. It's bulls**t. Thinly veiled racism and intolerance.

    The American people should never give credence to these ideas or give them a platform on which to speak.
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    i disagree with what was emphasized (by me) above
    everyone should have the right to freely express their opinions
    no matter how right or wrong we believe those opinions to be
    in no way should we attempt to suppress free speech
    in no way should we advocate against tolerance of those with differing views
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    [emphasis added by bubba]

    i disagree with what was emphasized (by me) above
    everyone should have the right to freely express their opinions
    no matter how right or wrong we believe those opinions to be
    in no way should we attempt to suppress free speech
    in no way should we advocate against tolerance of those with differing views
    Refusal of a venue to host a speaker is not against the First Amendment.

    Think of it this way:

    Nazi's have a right to speech in this country, but they would likely deny a Zionist to speak at one of their rallies.

    The Zionist could go on to speak somewhere else, (forum, blog, other meeting space, literally almost anywhere else)

    All because an organization decides they would rather have someone else speak doesn't mean the First Amendment is being violated.
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