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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yet, you were the one who characterized those who wished that this woman of color be afforded the opportunity to speak against misogyny as "right wingers".

    THis mindless,knee jerk reaction that frames any objection to Islamism as some sort of right wing reaction certainly isn't at all uncommon as there are many thousands of examples on this site of dogmatic leftists acting similarly, but if you actually knew what conservative and liberal meant, you would be championing the rights of this woman of color to speak against the misogyny.


    ....at least if you wished to claim you support liberalism instead of despising it so much you would defend the least liberal creatures on God's green earth.
    mindless, knee jerk reaction that frames any objection to zionism as some sort of left wing reaction certainly isn't at all uncommon
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Brandeis University withdraws planned honorary degree for Islam critic Ayaan Hirs

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I don't pay attention to anything in the National Review. Try to find a source that is a little less partisan.
    You want me to find a source that says there is no liberal bias? Perhaps you might want to check out the NYTimes or Mother Jones. They'll support your non-liberal bias assumptions. No faults in the article though, its just the messenger you don't pay attention to, correct? That should broaden the mind!
    Oh, and btw... there is nothing in that article that demonstrates a violation of the First Amendment. In fact, protesting is PROTECTED in the First Amendment, something that many of the examples were examples of. In other words, YOU are trying to restrict free speech because you don't like the speech that is being presented. You are such a hypocrite.
    Where did i say the first amendment was being violated? Cowardly Brandeis can do what they did, CAIR, naturally, will do what they do, and those of us who believe in diversity of opinion and greater rights for Muslim women will call down the two for their behavior. Everything is going as it should. I just hope this is not the end of it.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Nazism was the most violent political movement ever.
    No, it was not. That would be communism.
    Fascism and Nazism were right wing movements.
    No. As their names suggest, as well as their history, they were left wing movements.
    Further, Racism that surrounded the US from the end of the Civil War on to today is a conservative movement.
    By that I suppose you mean \Democrat.

    I don't care about Europe. I'm talking about the US. In the US, it's been conservatives leading the way to racism and suppression of opposing speech.
    It's been the left, and there are many examples.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    From where I sit, I'd say that it is the extremes at either end most likely to do so. THe more conformist a person is, the less able they are to handle those who don't conform, and the more extreme the views, the less tolerance. Left/right -- it makes no difference. THey are more alike than they are different when they become authoritarian.
    Yes, that's true but those who will not defend Hirsi Ali and, recently, Brandon Eich, or shout down those invited to speak at universities and public forums, all tend to share the same politics.

    Yes, any group can become authoritarian and that's why we must speak out against them when it happens. By cowardly dis-inviting Hirsi Ali they cast a shadow over her credibility, and she is one of the few women (I know of no men) fighting for the rights of Muslim women. Brandeis, CAIR, and their supporters have won, but what did they and their defenders actually win?

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    Re: Brandeis University withdraws planned honorary degree for Islam critic Ayaan Hirs

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I don't pay attention to anything in the National Review. Try to find a source that is a little less partisan.

    Oh, and btw... there is nothing in that article that demonstrates a violation of the First Amendment. In fact, protesting is PROTECTED in the First Amendment, something that many of the examples were examples of. In other words, YOU are trying to restrict free speech because you don't like the speech that is being presented. You are such a hypocrite.
    CC its true the NR is partisan but the headline I posted is right on the money I don't care who posted it.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that's true but those who will not defend Hirsi Ali and, recently, Brandon Eich, or shout down those invited to speak at universities and public forums, all tend to share the same politics.

    Yes, any group can become authoritarian and that's why we must speak out against them when it happens. By cowardly dis-inviting Hirsi Ali they cast a shadow over her credibility, and she is one of the few women (I know of no men) fighting for the rights of Muslim women. Brandeis, CAIR, and their supporters have won, but what did they and their defenders actually win?
    In my opinion this lady is a hero in her fight for human rights for women. She is under 24 hour guard for speaking out.

    I thought the left was all for female rights. Oh wait that is only when a leftist speaks for them...My Bad.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    In my opinion this lady is a hero in her fight for human rights for women. She is under 24 hour guard for speaking out.

    I thought the left was all for female rights. Oh wait that is only when a leftist speaks for them...My Bad.
    They may be concerned about being anti muslim women or islamophobic. Unlike Hirsi Ali they took the safer route.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    mindless, knee jerk reaction that frames any objection to zionism as some sort of left wing reaction certainly isn't at all uncommon
    Been practicing your non sequitors lately there,Bubba,and wanted to give them ago?


    What does the establishment of the state of Israel have to do with the subject matter,anyway?
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    In my opinion this lady is a hero in her fight for human rights for women. She is under 24 hour guard for speaking out.

    I thought the left was all for female rights. Oh wait that is only when a leftist speaks for them...My Bad.
    What these people have done is to send out a message that any University who dares invited Hirsi Ali to speak, or get an honorary degree, will get the same treatment from CAIR and Muslim groups within that University. No University will invite her again because they realize they will just get problems and controversy. Best they invite some mealy mouth prig who will rail against the usual safe targets such as Christians, Jews, dead White men and the 'War Against Women', provided those women aren't Muslim.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Been practicing your non sequitors lately there,Bubba,and wanted to give them ago?


    What does the establishment of the state of Israel have to do with the subject matter,anyway?
    It's the law. If Muslims are mentioned Jews must also be mentioned.

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