Page 11 of 19 FirstFirst ... 910111213 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 110 of 184

Thread: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

  1. #101
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No one has said that their religious views can not be criticized. However, free speech does not require Brandeis to honor anyone simply because you (or anyone else) agrees with what she says.
    Obviously Brandeis must have had some empathy for her point of view, plus her intellect and courage, or they wouldn't have invited her. When CAIR found out and complained she was quickly, under pressure, dis-invited.

    CAIR

    Here's the mealymouthed keeper quote from the article that any bonafide leftist will recognize as one of their own.

    American Muslims join people of conscience of all faiths in condemning female genital mutilation, forced marriages, ‘honor killings,’ and any other form of domestic violence or gender inequality as violations of Islamic beliefs. If anyone mistreats women, they should not seek refuge in Islam. The real concern in this case is that the producers of the film, who have a track record of promoting anti-Muslim bigotry, are hijacking a legitimate issue to push their hate-filled agenda.

  2. #102
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obviously Brandeis must have had some empathy for her point of view, plus her intellect and courage, or they wouldn't have invited her. When CAIR found out and complained she was quickly, under pressure, dis-invited.
    Which both CAIR and Brandeis are allowed to do. Ironic to see such a defender of free speech whine when CAIR and Brandeis exercises their free speech rights
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  3. #103
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Which both CAIR and Brandeis are allowed to do. Ironic to see such a defender of free speech whine when CAIR and Brandeis exercises their free speech rights
    CAIR was not denied free speech, nor was Brandeis. What gave you the idea that their speech was denied?

  4. #104
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    CAIR was not denied free speech, nor was Brandeis. What gave you the idea that their speech was denied?
    Where did I say that anyone's free speech was denied?

    You're the one who has posted poutrage over free speech. Remember?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  5. #105
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Where did I say that anyone's free speech was denied?

    You're the one who has posted poutrage over free speech. Remember?
    Where did I ever post outrage over free speech???

  6. #106
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,604

    Re: Brandeis University withdraws planned honorary degree for Islam critic Ayaan Hirs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Let's look at the recent evidence of what 'liberals' have been saying and doing. The New Inquisition | National Review Online
    I don't pay attention to anything in the National Review. Try to find a source that is a little less partisan.

    Oh, and btw... there is nothing in that article that demonstrates a violation of the First Amendment. In fact, protesting is PROTECTED in the First Amendment, something that many of the examples were examples of. In other words, YOU are trying to restrict free speech because you don't like the speech that is being presented. You are such a hypocrite.
    Last edited by CaptainCourtesy; 04-15-14 at 04:52 AM.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  7. #107
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,604

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Communists were the largest political, and most violent movement ever, over the last Century and lasted, roughly, from 1917 to 1990, with just a few pockets remaining.

    Was free speech ever allowed in those countries? Are they allowed in what's left?
    Nazism was the most violent political movement ever. Fascism and Nazism were right wing movements. Further, Racism that surrounded the US from the end of the Civil War on to today is a conservative movement. I don't care about Europe. I'm talking about the US. In the US, it's been conservatives leading the way to racism and suppression of opposing speech.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  8. #108
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where did I ever post outrage over free speech???
    You didn't post any outrage. You posted "poutrage"

    Here's where you claimed it was a free speech issue
    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you're saying it's a safety issue and not a free speech issue
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both.
    And here's the poutrage you posted

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A good point but in fact it has always been left wingers who try to silence any opposition. This is no different than it was a century ago.
    Here's some more poutrage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Would we prefer our daughters to grow up with the strength, courage and intelligence of Hirsi Ali or the cowardice demonstrated by the President and much of the faculty at Brandeis University?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "Liberals" are showing once again their true feelings about genuine women's liberation the same way they claim to care about Blacks in America. When Muslim women genuinely are freed, perhaps in a hundred years or so, it will be 'liberals' who will once again try to take the credit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you want to see Muslim women freed or don't you? Do you want to see Hirsi Ali speak out against the injustices many Muslim women suffer or not? Do you feel that Brandeis inviting her and reneging was wrong? Do you know that by doing that they also removed whatever chance she had to speak? Did you know also that Islamic pressure is also disallowing Universities from showing her film Honor Diaries?

    Do you genuinely feel that 'liberals' have been in the forefront in the rights for Muslim women, or do you feel that 'conservatives' have spoken out more in this regard?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, Liberals understand that there are limits on free speech and if there is enough pressure applied then these rights can be rightfully terminated.
    Last edited by sangha; 04-15-14 at 09:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  9. #109
    free market communist
    Gardener's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    09-30-17 @ 12:27 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    26,661

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A good point but in fact it has always been left wingers who try to silence any opposition. This is no different than it was a century ago.
    From where I sit, I'd say that it is the extremes at either end most likely to do so. THe more conformist a person is, the less able they are to handle those who don't conform, and the more extreme the views, the less tolerance.

    Left/right -- it makes no difference. THey are more alike than they are different when they become authoritarian.
    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

  10. #110
    free market communist
    Gardener's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    09-30-17 @ 12:27 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    26,661

    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, no one prevented her from speaking.

    Brandeis just refused to give her an honorary award.
    Yet, you were the one who characterized those who wished that this woman of color be afforded the opportunity to speak against misogyny as "right wingers".

    THis mindless,knee jerk reaction that frames any objection to Islamism as some sort of right wing reaction certainly isn't at all uncommon as there are many thousands of examples on this site of dogmatic leftists acting similarly, but if you actually knew what conservative and liberal meant, you would be championing the rights of this woman of color to speak against the misogyny.


    ....at least if you wished to claim you support liberalism instead of despising it so much you would defend the least liberal creatures on God's green earth.
    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

Page 11 of 19 FirstFirst ... 910111213 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •