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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    She can say whatever she wants.
    But it's better if she doesn't say it at an American University. Trouble might occur.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But it's better if she doesn't say it at an American University. Trouble might occur.
    So you're saying it's a safety issue and not a free speech issue
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you're saying it's a safety issue and not a free speech issue
    Both.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Some of her views are mainstream and some are not, mainly because her learning and life experience has been so out of the mainstream.

    Horsi Ali would have made an excellent recipient of the honor, given the history of Brandeis, but pressures from the Islamists got it cancelled. It's not the first time this has happened and probably not the last.
    Ad I questioned the notion that she's an "anti-Islamic" voice. She's a secularist and atheist.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ad I questioned the notion that she's an "anti-Islamic" voice. She's a secularist and atheist.
    And anti Islamic as well, at least in regard to their treatment of women.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    It's a shame that they were pressured into withdrawing the honor. She richly deserves it for the work that she's done.

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Again, How many Muslims of the 1.5 Billion live in the US/EU?
    1%-2% Restricted by our laws.
    Ooops.
    No "oops".

    And absence of "our laws" (or the "rule of law" in the West more generally) is the operative concept.

    Not religion.

    Other big contributors are poverty, lack of opportunity, and ignorance (as it relates to lack of availability of basic education).

    What IS happening (in further demo of the "nihilistic death cult" beyond killing apostates, adulterers, gays, etc), Is the Persecution, Cleansing, and Killing of Non-Muslims and Muslims of other sects WORLDWIDE.
    Not just by 'terror' groups, but my Mainstream Muslims and their Governments from Mauritania to Mindinao.

    Many people are persecuted, cleansed, or die Every day in the Name of Islam.
    Agreed.

    And many people are persecuted, cleansed, or die every day in the name of plenty other than Islam.

    Persecution, cleansing, or killing in the name of Christianity is another big culprit.

    Bush was an apologist for Islam, as are many in government necessarily.
    They can't tell the truth, that these 'Extremist' muslims are in fact not perverting the religion at all.
    Nonsense, and, nonsense.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Other big contributors are poverty, lack of opportunity, and ignorance (as it relates to lack of availability of basic education).
    And many people are persecuted, cleansed, or die every day in the name of plenty other than Islam.
    Where are these 'many people'? North Korea? Cuba?

    Persecution, cleansing, or killing in the name of Christianity is another big culprit.
    Really? where is that going on?

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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    She can say whatever she wants. And if the Brandeis students want to hear it, they can listen.
    It was a commencement speech, sangha. The university revoked the event. Even if someone at Brandeis invites her back to speak, I think that that situation is unlikely.

    We went through the same issue in 2010 for UW Madison. I realize it is a mixed issue. Muslims are apart of a stigmatized community. However that does not excuse their religious views from criticism, especially those criticisms coming from an ex-Muslim convert.
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    Re: Under fire, Brandeis cancels plan to honor anti-Islam feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    It was a commencement speech, sangha. The university revoked the event. Even if someone at Brandeis invites her back to speak, I think that that situation is unlikely.
    Untrue. The commencement ceremony was not cancelled.

    We went through the same issue in 2010 for UW Madison. I realize it is a mixed issue. Muslims are apart of a stigmatized community. However that does not excuse their religious views from criticism, especially those criticisms coming from an ex-Muslim convert.
    No one has said that their religious views can not be criticized. However, free speech does not require Brandeis to honor anyone simply because you (or anyone else) agrees with what she says.
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