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BREAKING: Sebelius said to resign as health secretary..

It seems like he had enough confidence in her and it paid off with them hitting the 7 million mark. :shrug: It's like a pitcher who loads the bases and the coach letting him stay in to get the final out.

MMC said:
It is her fault with a lot of it.....but its also his for letting her stick around after the first mess ups and then her being pulled in front of Congress. So yeah it is also her dropping onto the sword. As she knows.....she will be called back for more investigation. Although now she doesn't have to incriminate herself. Especially with what she knew people had told her before things got to this point.
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Hey Polgara!

I don't have much love for Sebelius either, but I doubt she knows much about what's coming up. She had a hard enough time keeping up with what was supposed to be currently going on!


polgara said:
From what I've read, Michelle made the decision on who was going to be hired to do the website, and she picked a friend of hers. Bad decision as it turned out, but that's the way it goes. I wonder if that's one of the reasons they're currently having the marital arguments that have been in the news? Her decision did make him look bad!

I have no great love for Sebelius, but in fairness, it might be that Sebelius was doing the best job she could under very difficult circumstances. I don't blame her for thinking that now might be the opportune time to get out, since we haven't seen what's yet to come, but she surely knows!

Greetings, Chaddelamancha. :2wave:
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MMC said:
It is her fault with a lot of it.....but its also his for letting her stick around after the first mess ups and then her being pulled in front of Congress.
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Let's say she was fired in the first half of October. Then instead of 7.5 million enrollments through exchanges today, we'd be at what? 10 million?
 
Perotista said:
I really do not think it makes much difference as to who heads what. All are suppose to do the president's bidding.
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But these sociopaths think the masses will think all is better now that the person who was supposedly in charge is gone and things will magically get better. There is some merit to that though, there are a LOT of dummies out there.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Isn't it kind of her fault? You can blame Obama for appointing her, but not for the website issues. That's why he hired her, to handle the nuts and bolts of the thing. So she isn't falling on the sword for him, she is resigning because she did a poor job.
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Who do you think was putting the pressure on when the news hit that the whole thing isn't ready for prime time? They knew in advance it wasn't ready to roll out, but whos decision do you think it was to go forward anyway, regardless of the problems? It all comes back to the POTUS, but you know the direction **** rolls when things don't go well....its never the guy at top's fault.
 
polgara said:
From what I've read, Michelle made the decision on who was going to be hired to do the website, and she picked a friend of hers. Bad decision as it turned out, but that's the way it goes. I wonder if that's one of the reasons they're currently having the marital arguments that have been in the news? Her decision did make him look bad!

I have no great love for Sebelius, but in fairness, it might be that Sebelius was doing the best job she could under very difficult circumstances. I don't blame her for thinking that now might be the opportune time to get out, since we haven't seen what's yet to come, but she surely knows!

Greetings, Chaddelamancha. :2wave:
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Wonder when Michelle will step down. :)
 
Greenbeard said:
Let's say she was fired in the first half of October. Then instead of 7.5 million enrollments through exchanges today, we'd be at what? 10 million?
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Less.....as then some of what was discovered wouldn't have been revealed and they would have thought.....All is well. Like they do now.....thinking nothing can be done to take O'Care down. Yet not figuring out how it can all fail on its own. No matter how much lying is done to protect, and deflect otherwise.

Now.....don't forget Greenbeard. That one piece of his Signature legislation comes undone, and you know which that one is. Then it just isn't much of a Legacy.....now is it? It certainly wont be his.
 
MrVicchio said:
BREAKING: Sebelius said to resign as health secretary..

DRUDGE REPORT 2014®

Breaking headline. Let's see if it pans out.
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At least they didn't fire her at the low point of the ACA debacle. But her successor will have all they can do to handle a poorly designed and manufactured law.
 
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Sadly shell just be replaced by another bureaucrat who is more concerned with protecting the President than being accountable to the people. In this case the director of the OMB who knows nothing about healthcare.
 
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What took so long? She was under prepared and over challenged. In fairness, only an extraordinary individual could've made the ACA better in the eyes of the public - it's such a bomb.
 
JRSaindo said:
But these sociopaths think the masses will think all is better now that the person who was supposedly in charge is gone and things will magically get better. There is some merit to that though, there are a LOT of dummies out there.
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Yeah, I know. Policy will not change. The face will, but maybe you are right, the HHS could be run more smoothly and better. But what irks those who wanted her resignation is not going to change by whomever replaces her. It is all a political game that in the end means nothing. I suppose it can make those against her feel better that she is gone, but it is only a feel good thing. That feeling of good will be gone the day whoever replaces her is in place and we start the whole thing all over again.
 
Lets hope he doesn't give her an Ambassadorship to another Country.....or a spot on his Foreign Policy Team.
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humbolt said:
What took so long? She was under prepared and over challenged. In fairness, only an extraordinary individual could've made the ACA better in the eyes of the public - it's such a bomb.
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If she knew the ACA was the mess it is when it was passed, then she should have resigned then. She probably didn't read it.
 
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The wheels on the bus....

Sebelius had originally said she would stay on til November. I believe this is nothing but a democrat campaign strategy which will allow candidates to distance themselves from her (she represent the ACA) for the 2014 campaign. Its also a ready made excuse for when/if they lose control of the senate.
 
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Resigns ? How could this be ? The law is getting so "popular" and because of it millions have access to " affordable health care "

They JUST hit their 7 Million sign up goal !! WHY would she resign ( hag was fired ) ??
 
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jonny5 said:
Sadly shell just be replaced by another bureaucrat who is more concerned with protecting the President than being accountable to the people. In this case the director of the OMB who knows nothing about healthcare.
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That's the problem with resignations in this administration, you just get somebody else just as unqualified and anti-American and pro statism as you had before. We need to fumigate the entire place and clean them out like cockroaches.
 
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fmw said:
If she knew the ACA was the mess it is when it was passed, then she should have resigned then. She probably didn't read it.
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Who in the world did? I believe even the various authors only read those sections for which they were responsible, and I use responsible very, very lightly. I hasten to add that I agree with you - no person with a complete understanding of the ACA would've taken that job. I just don't think any such person exists, and that's why there have been so many changes to the law. Nobody knew enough to craft such a law, and nobody does now. Only those with overly extreme hubris and arrogance claim such knowledge, and reality proves them wrong.
 
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American said:
He accepted it because there is a political advantage in doing so. The man is pure politics.
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We all know that no other President in history has made choices because of politics....
 
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rocket88 said:
We all know that no other President in history has made choices because of politics....
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I'm not sure even Bill Clinton could compete.
 
"...But no one knows what goes on behind closed doors". (song lyric) Now, if there is one stooge on this thread that does not know that this incompetent, old skank was fired by Oblabla then you live in a ring box. The entire healthcare fiasco just keeps on rolling with the crest of the wave yet to hit. The only thing missing now is for Oblabla to resign and apologize to this nation for imitating a president.
 
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humbolt said:
What took so long? She was under prepared and over challenged. In fairness, only an extraordinary individual could've made the ACA better in the eyes of the public - it's such a bomb.
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Good morning, humbolt. :2wave:

For an undertaking this large - one that represents one-sixth of our economy - one would have expected it to have been carefully written by anyone other than attorneys in DC, whose only concern was political at the time. That they expected people to meekly go along with having their lives turned upside down by being told by DC that they must buy a product the government offered - other than the one they currently had - or pay a fine, was a big miscalculation, as we are finding out. The majority of the people in this country neither like nor want the new plan, as polls have been proving since the beginning. The spinning going on about how great it is hasn't changed their minds either.

The justification given was that 30 million people didn't have insurance. Well, under the new law, we are learning that 90 million people now won't have insurance. Huh? :screwy: And I fully expect things to get worse as time goes on, as people try to use their new insurance plans. Time will tell, but having a new person in charge isn't going to make things all better, contrary to DC's hopes. Sebelius isn't the problem...the plan is a bad joke!
 
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When Obama did his Rose Garden Pat-myself-on-the-back Display recently, I commented on how interesting it was that she wasn't next to him (like Joe Buffoon Biden was). I guess now we know why.

Now that she's free again maybe she can focus on finding another later term abortionist to champion now that Tiller the Baby Killer is in Hell, where he belongs.
 
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fmw said:
If she knew the ACA was the mess it is when it was passed, then she should have resigned then. She probably didn't read it.
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That would make her in sync with the other Dems.
 
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