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    Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    This is a new take on the whole "religious freedom" thing. A Seattle church has refused to discharge the Scoutmaster of their Boy Scout troop despite the national organisation telling them the guy has to go.

    Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Boy Scouts of America may have revoked his membership, but openly gay Scoutmaster Geoffrey McGrath is continuing his role as a leader with the support of his church.

    On any given Sunday, the Rainier Beach United Methodist Church opens its sanctuary for worship.

    "All means all," said Rev. Dr. Monica Corsaro of Rainier Beach United Methodist Church. "All we care about is that you want to be in community and that's the way we live it, and to me that's the gospel of Jesus Christ, so that's what we follow."
    Now they've hired an attorney
    McGrath and Rev. Corsaro believe BSA is infringing on their religious freedom, since the organization expects churches to choose their scoutmasters. Their attorney, Peter Mullenix, hopes dialogue may help them avoid litigation in their efforts to win back McGrath's membership.

    "We are still exploring our legal options, and we hope no litigation is necessary. We want to work with the Boy Scouts toward a resolution that works for the kids of the Rainier Beach United Methodist Church. With that said, it may be time for the courts to revisit the question of whether a congressionally chartered, non-sectarian corporation is allowed to violate the states’ discrimination statutes," Mullenix wrote in a statement to KING 5.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Despite the rhetoric they like to employ, the religious right's views on religion aren't universal among the devout. There is plenty of disagreement among the religious, and plenty who don't see their faith as requiring them to be socially regressive. Kudos to this church for being one of them.
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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    They have no case. If they don't like the rules set by the Boy Scouts then they can choose to not have a troop. There is no god-give right for a church to have a troop and to force the Boy Scouts to bend to their will.

    On a different point you are correct, this is news. Congratulations to the parents of that church for allowing a homosexual man to take their boys out camping. What we usually see in this debate is liberals fighting on behalf of homosexual scoutmasters being able to take OTHER PEOPLE'S SONS out camping, not their own. I do believe that this is a first where parent's have offered their own sons up to the experiment.

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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    They have no case. If they don't like the rules set by the Boy Scouts then they can choose to not have a troop. There is no god-give right for a church to have a troop and to force the Boy Scouts to bend to their will.

    On a different point you are correct, this is news. Congratulations to the parents of that church for allowing a homosexual man to take their boys out camping. What we usually see in this debate is liberals fighting on behalf of homosexual scoutmasters being able to take OTHER PEOPLE'S SONS out camping, not their own. I do believe that this is a first where parent's have offered their own son's up to the experiment.
    the boy scouts receive federal tax dollars, and i don't want my money going to a group that discriminates
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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the boy scouts receive federal tax dollars, and i don't want my money going to a group that discriminates
    And I don't want my tax dollars going to fund nutty liberal religious ideas. I guess it sucks for both of us huh?

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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This is a new take on the whole "religious freedom" thing. A Seattle church has refused to discharge the Scoutmaster of their Boy Scout troop despite the national organisation telling them the guy has to go.

    Now they've hired an attorney
    Great story. Good on them.

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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This is a new take on the whole "religious freedom" thing. A Seattle church has refused to discharge the Scoutmaster of their Boy Scout troop despite the national organisation telling them the guy has to go.



    Now they've hired an attorney
    I have no problem with that. The church's congregation can decide for themselves. However, they should change the name of their local troop and understand they are no longer part of the BSA or BSA resources.

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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And I don't want my tax dollars going to fund nutty liberal religious ideas. I guess it sucks for both of us huh?
    Nutty liberal religious ideas like "government funding shouldn't support discrimination?"
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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    The homophobia makes me nauseous that I was ever a member

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    Re: Seattle church stands by gay Scoutmaster

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    They have no case. If they don't like the rules set by the Boy Scouts then they can choose to not have a troop. There is no god-give right for a church to have a troop and to force the Boy Scouts to bend to their will.

    On a different point you are correct, this is news. Congratulations to the parents of that church for allowing a homosexual man to take their boys out camping. What we usually see in this debate is liberals fighting on behalf of homosexual scoutmasters being able to take OTHER PEOPLE'S SONS out camping, not their own. I do believe that this is a first where parent's have offered their own sons up to the experiment.
    What experiment?


    Nosed around and found a piece by the Scoutmaster himself.

    Guest: Geoffrey McGrath on getting ousted from the Boy Scouts of America for being gay | Opinion | The Seattle Times
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