Yea but I established with those photos the fact that Cliven Bundy is holding hands with militia nut cases. Some people are trying to claim that the Bundy's have no affiliation with any militia nut cases.
I don't know a whole awful lot about militias.
While I would suspect that, like any other organization, they contain their share of "nut cases", I would also suspect that the large majority of their membership are perfectly sane.
When you say that the Bundy's have an affiliation with militias that sort of implies that the relationship with a militia predates this issue of the federal government turning a cattle round-up into a show of force that makes Operation Just Cause look like small potatoes.
Do you have any evidence of that?
As far as I can tell Bundy actually did not have any relationship with any militia, and is only now using them as body guards because he's got more federal agents on "his" property than there were Marines storming Fallujah.
Nothing for nothing, but given the rate at which law enforcement officers kill innocent, non-violent civilians in this country, if I had a battalion of cops camping on my front lawn I'd be inclined to accept whatever protection I could find too.
Really the militia presence at the Bundy Ranch justifies the need for a BLM seciruity detail.
You're kind of putting the cart before the horse here.
The buildup of federal law enforcement "troops" (look at those guys, they're not police officers, they're paramilitaries) preceded the militia turnout by at least a week.
The cops showed up with assault rifles, MRAPS, and snipers to threaten completely non-violent citizens (note that no civilian out there at the Bundy ranch has yet done ANYTHING to harm or even directly threaten a cop) and a wekk later the militia started pouring in.
ANd considering the tactic that the Bundy protesters used of placing women and children in harms way while targeting fellow Americans with sniper positions, well the whole thing stinks of 'domestic terrorism'.
The federal government was training snipers on the Bundy family, and the initial small outpouring of supporters, long before the armed militias showed up and returned the favor.
I haven't yet heard anything about children being used as human shields. You just made that up.
There was a report of a plan to put the women up front but it was never actually done because the standoff never actually devolved into actual hostilities.
Of course, the reports of that plan can be traced back to the comments one man made to a reporter so there's no way of knowing whether or not it was actually something the entire group accepted and planned to adopt.
For all we know the guy who made the comments was one of the "nut cases" we were talking about above.
It is just a matter of time before one of these nutcase militia idiots commits a domestic terrorism act.
Likewise, it's also probably only a matter of time before overbearing, militarized law enforcement agents commit an act of overzealous murder.
Oh, wait, I don't think I've logged on to Facebook once in the past two years without being greeted by yet another story of a cop somewhere abusing his authority and beating, maiming, or killing a citizen simply because he could and then being buried behind the "thin blue line" of lying fellow law enforcement officers and union lawyers only to serve a brief paid suspension while the investigation is swept under the rug.
One or more of those ****wads will be the next Timothy McVeigh, I just hope that they dont kill too many people.
So, one example of a (fringe) militia member becoming a domestic terrorist and literally hundreds of examples every year of law enforcement officers, federal, state, and local, trampling on the rights of American citizens to the point that they needlessly kill or maim several every week.
You're in New Mexico, isn't the Albuquerque Police Department running up some kind of record where they, alone, try to kill at least one citizen a week?
