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Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

Good point. What about when the Bush administration rounded up Arab Americans who were denied due process.

What does any of this have to do with Clyde Bundy, the lawbreaker and moocher?

Rounded them up off the battlefield you mean, and when Obama continues to keep them denied of due process you mean? You don't want to go down that road do you? :lamo

It has to do with brown shirt tactics used by the Federal Government.
 
I am not bitching about anything, you are and so are the Bundy's. And dude your insults about public school education is a sad ****ing ploy.

And no I didnt get my notions from anywhere except the US Constitution, perhaps you should read it sometime?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

You mean besides the fact that it is a lie? The people didn't do anything to establish the Union or to establish the Constitution. They didn't even consent to any of it, and hell, the majority of the people didn't even want to fight england.

And you might want to read the Gettysburg Address sometime as well, but you probably hate Lincoln huh?

"government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

I had to memorize the Gettysburg Address as a kid, so yeah, I'm aware of it. His statement is saying that people have no right to eliminate government. Not exactly something you should champion.
 
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What Supreme Court ruling made the law unconstitutional?

The one in his conspiratorial head.

The kooks have stopped reasoning, they just hate the government and are looking for any excuse, however flimsy to beat their chests and start a fight.

They are not Americans, they are not patriots, they are petulant, ignorant rabble who think they can ignore the rule of law.
 
:lamo Nope....I lost nothing...When you decide to actually debate let me know....Right now we are just having fun....
But, you never answered the question below from a previous post.
Did you ever rent, lease or buy a home or property? Did you pay?

Since it wasn't answered, it can only mean one thing, still living at mothers house, no rent, no lease, don't have to buy anything, basically mooching like Clyde Bundy does.
 
Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing | Fox News



I hope these federal agents don't go full retard over some cattle grazing. Helicopters? Really?

Here's a question for the libertarians out there - the guy said he has a right to let his cattle graze on federal land because it's HIS land since he's an American citizen, right? So that means that I have just as much right to that land as he does, right?

So if I say that that's MY land and I don't want HIS cattle crapping all over MY land, who decides who's right?

Think about it - that rancher's claims are not much different than, say, owning a hundred dogs and allowing them to crap in a (federally-owned) national park every day for years, and saying that it's okay because he owns that land...and can do what he will with it even though other American citizens tell him that no, he can't do that.

Who decides? Who has more right to that land? The rancher and those who support him, or the rest of the American people who say that he can't do that? Who decides?
 
By Valerie Richardson-The Washington Times Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Sending scores of armed agents along with helicopters and dogs to confront an elderly Nevada rancher over grazing fees may seem like overkill, but critics say it’s not inconsistent with the federal government’s recent approach to environmental enforcement.

The simmering truce between the Bundys and the Bureau of Land Management comes after high-profile raids last year by armed federal agents on small-time gold miners in tiny Chicken, Alaska, and guitar makers at the Gibson Guitar facilities in Tennessee.


That doesn’t include more subtle threats, such as recent efforts by the Obama administration to raise grazing fees or pressure permit holders to transfer their water rights as a condition of renewal, said Ryan Yates, director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau.

“Some have called it a culture of intimidation,” Mr. Yates said. “It’s issue after issue, threat after threat. It’s becoming harder and harder to keep those operations in business.”



Read more: 'Culture of intimidation' seen in Nevada ranch standoff - Washington Times
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That's about right....
 
Here's a question for the libertarians out there - the guy said he has a right to let his cattle graze on federal land because it's HIS land since he's an American citizen, right? So that means that I have just as much right to that land as he does, right?

So if I say that that's MY land and I don't want HIS cattle crapping all over MY land, who decides who's right?

Think about it - that rancher's claims are not much different than, say, owning a hundred dogs and allowing them to crap in a (federally-owned) national park every day for years, and saying that it's okay because he owns that land...and can do what he will with it even though other American citizens tell him that no, he can't do that.

Who decides? Who has more right to that land? The rancher and those who support him, or the rest of the American people who say that he can't do that? Who decides?

This will all be litigated in a court of law, not a state of Nevada court either, it will be decided in federal court.

Besides, Clyde has already admitted to owing the federal government money, he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.

It's just a matter of time before the feds try to arrest him. Armed militia are at his side, so this might not have a pretty ending.
 
Here's a question for the libertarians out there - the guy said he has a right to let his cattle graze on federal land because it's HIS land since he's an American citizen, right? So that means that I have just as much right to that land as he does, right?

So if I say that that's MY land and I don't want HIS cattle crapping all over MY land, who decides who's right?

Think about it - that rancher's claims are not much different than, say, owning a hundred dogs and allowing them to crap in a (federally-owned) national park every day for years, and saying that it's okay because he owns that land...and can do what he will with it even though other American citizens tell him that no, he can't do that.

Who decides? Who has more right to that land? The rancher and those who support him, or the rest of the American people who say that he can't do that? Who decides?

A politician in Washington who's never seen Nevada, in your world.
 
But, you never answered the question below from a previous post.


Since it wasn't answered, it can only mean one thing, still living at mothers house, no rent, no lease, don't have to buy anything, basically mooching like Clyde Bundy does.


Listen here pal, I own my own home...What do you own?
 
This will all be litigated in a court of law, not a state of Nevada court either, it will be decided in federal court.

Besides, Clyde has already admitted to owing the federal government money, he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.

It's just a matter of time before the feds try to arrest him. Armed militia are at his side, so this might not have a pretty ending.

Who's "Clyde"?
 
Listen here pal, I own my own home...What do you own?

Are you or have you paid for it? If yes, then Clyde should take a page out of your playbook on how to pay up.
 
When the Fed lied and tried to use the turtles as a point of contention. IT was a lie.

Wow...what law school did you go to? LOL

Fact is: he used to pay, then he thought he'd be a "patriot" and not pay when Clinton got elected, and he has been stealing services since then. He lost every court battle, he has no leg to stand on, and the drooling hillbillies want to coronate this guy as some great leader. He isn't, he is a mooch, a scofflaw, a squatter, and a thief. If you ever rent out a house and your renters stop paying you, you have rights. The feds have rights, this clown is breaking the law, you can't choose not to obey some laws. And if any of these gomers shoots a BLM agent, he should be taken out, immediately.
 
I was specific in a previous post.
Arab Americans.
We're getting way off topic here, as much as what happened yesterday.

Pen and a phone... Congress isn't needed. Hell, Obama changed the ACA 38 times without Congress.
 
So, you're anti government, gotcha! Are you joining Bundy in his fight against the black shirts?

I'm against acting on people when they did not aggress on the person or property of another. That means that I'm against the vast majority of what government does. I have no plans to join in on a fight against the government at this time, so no, I won't be joining Bundy.
 
Pen and a phone... Congress isn't needed. Hell, Obama changed the ACA 38 times without Congress.

Oh sheeeeet, back with this ACA crap. There's a thread for that, GTFO please. Now, discuss the mooching cattle rancher please....
 
Oh sheeeeet, back with this ACA crap. There's a thread for that, GTFO please. Now, discuss the mooching cattle rancher please....

You brought Congress into it, you opened the door. Pen and phone.... why is gitmo still open?
 
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