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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    Care to explain? The people of NV would likely be happy to buy the US Govts land if they'd offer it for sale. I know 3 sections I'd take tomorrow if you'd just make it so....being that Sammy's welfare rangers have to cross my land to get to theirs.
    The federal govt has no business controlling 84% of a state. It's cost money.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well since those are public lands, plenty of us do choose to see the tortoises survive and not see the rest of the range degraded by illegal grazing. It's landed that belongs to everyone and he's cheating all of us, financially and environmentally.
    I agree with you - to a degree.

    The rancher is 67 years old and his family has grazed cattle on that land for three generations. If the rancher lives on site, and he probably does, then I have little doubt that he is a living part of a culture that is fast vanishing.

    None of this means that the rancher should get to graze for free. What it does mean to me is that the totality of the circumstances suggest that the rancher's use of the land should be grandfathered- so long as he pays the rent.

    There could be other stipulations as well, such as the number of cattle must be with his historical norms. Yes, some tortoises might be killed, but the rancher is 67 years old and as the grandfathering only applies to him (and perhaps a few other 60 year old (+) ) ranchers, he will not be there forever.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    If one reads the comments at this link, you might think there are some seriously deranged individuals with access to the internets
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    You get lost how about that; you're sucking off my tax dollars by having 84% of your land under Federal control. Nevada is a parasite along with its citizens.
    Virginia is #10 on the list of states that receive the most welfare from the feds. They receive $1.51 for each dollar they send to the feds. Nevada doesn't even make the top 20

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing | Fox News



    I hope these federal agents don't go full retard over some cattle grazing. Helicopters? Really?


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    I missed the part where the land management outfit had a court order. They sued him right? And they have legal jurisdiction and all that?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    This was common grazing ground, and used by the man's family since 1870. In 1946, the BLM was formed. I hope the feds turn out looking horrible after this.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Unless the government violated land rights then he is grazing illegally on land that is not his and I have no sympathy for him...
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    I'm torn on this one. On one hand, it's cows eating ****ing grass, does that really need paid for? Not sure how paying the government for your cows to eat grass protects this turtle... On the other hand, what difference does it make who the money goes to? If he feels that his family owns the land, well, I'd love to see documents saying so.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Sorry, I don't feel empathy for a guy who has used public lands for free in furtherance of his own personal business and private profit. The fact that he refused to pay applicable fees for years before grazing was banned tells me that he feels like he personally owns and is entitled to the free use of that land... forever.

    Apparently the feds have been in and out of court for decades trying to adjudicate this in some way; the rancher basically says, "bite me." So if the feds round up a few hundred head of cattle to auction off for past grazing fees, he can just cry me a river.

    Besides, the sight of a squashed tortoise makes me sad.

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