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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You're not making much sense.
    It made perfect sense.

    So you were talking about the Panthers then? Maybe I wouldn't have to ask questions if you didn't write everything in the vaguest language possible.
    There was nothing vague. You're being obtuse while trying to be witty and condescending. I quoted two groups and said some were armed some were not. Anyone that knew anything about the two groups wouldn't have needed further clarification.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    So, losing his case in court multiple times means nothing to you?
    Of course it means something to me, and further pursuit in the legal system is what was warranted. Not a heavily armed seizure of private property.

    You want anarchy, just as long as it is anarchy you agree with.

    Public land, but he still has to pay grazing fees. You keep admiring deadbeat scofflaw moochers...
    First....it's public land with no other use. His use is not precluding anyone else from using it. That's what public land is for. There are legal ways to pursue the fines he owes, and from what I've read....he's further appealing the court decisions. There is a fair bit of wiggle room between anarchy and an oppressive govt.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    How was this group being mistreated? They are taxpayers, they are owed money from this welfare queen, they should demand that someone pay their bills...
    How? There was a greater armed presence at this roundup than at Benghazi. Don't be obtuse.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Originally Posted by Kobie
    The Kent State students didn't dredge up a bunch of militia hicks to threaten federal officials. I'm not sure to what Black Panthers incident you're referring.
    Originally Posted by mac They all stood in defiance of the govt, some armed, some not.
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    It made perfect sense.

    There was nothing vague. You're being obtuse while trying to be witty and condescending. I quoted two groups and said some were armed some were not. Anyone that knew anything about the two groups wouldn't have needed further clarification.
    If you think that there was "nothing vague" about your lumping together Kent State students and the Black Panthers in a statement about armed groups - I must ask if English is your first language. Or perhaps you are deliberately inciting those of opposing political persuasion.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Of course it means something to me, and further pursuit in the legal system is what was warranted. Not a heavily armed seizure of private property.



    First....it's public land with no other use. His use is not precluding anyone else from using it. That's what public land is for. There are legal ways to pursue the fines he owes, and from what I've read....he's further appealing the court decisions. There is a fair bit of wiggle room between anarchy and an oppressive govt.
    Would you care to wager this public land has no other use? Yes Bundy's cattle do preclude other citizens from using the land. I thought extended court cases were one of those items on the conservative tick list - you know, they call it "tort reform". How many more times do you want to pay for federal attorneys to stand before judges, all of whom have sided with the government case?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    If you think that there was "nothing vague" about your lumping together Kent State students and the Black Panthers in a statement about armed groups - I must ask if English is your first language. Or perhaps you are deliberately inciting those of opposing political persuasion.

    "Radical" would be a better Lean for you
    Civil disobedience is civil disobedience....would you like everything spelled out in small words so you can understand it better?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Would you care to wager this public land has no other use? Yes Bundy's cattle do preclude other citizens from using the land. I thought extended court cases were one of those items on the conservative tick list - you know, they call it "tort reform". How many more times do you want to pay for federal attorneys to stand before judges, all of whom have sided with the government case?
    What specific use is being denied to what specific group?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, they should not start going after tax delinquents until they first start going after tax delinquents
    IOW, you have a problem reading what I actually stated and demonstrated with evidence of the selective nature of this administration's debt collection effort.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Since two wrongs make a right, you do have a good point there.
    C'mon. I know you can count past two.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Would you care to wager this public land has no other use? Yes Bundy's cattle do preclude other citizens from using the land. I thought extended court cases were one of those items on the conservative tick list - you know, they call it "tort reform". How many more times do you want to pay for federal attorneys to stand before judges, all of whom have sided with the government case?
    If this is public land, then this guy is one of the owners of that land. So since he is an owner why cant he use it?

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