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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    To put it simply, it doesn't matter what "laws" you break anymore when you're fighting the Federal government. Why does the Federal government need all this public land in Nevada? Are they even using it for anything? A rancher needs a lot of land, especially in a desert like area of Nevada, and when 1/2 of the land is owned by the government, that makes it quite difficult.

    This man is trying to save his livelihood, and taxes for use of "Public" land is completely stupid. Let us all pay a fee to hike in a national park the next time we visit it.
    Get the hell out of my country. You have such a hardon about fighting the feds, for what? Alex Jones told you to be angry? Don't like it? Leave my damned country, seriously, we don't need you and your angry trash hillbillies defending a welfare queen moocher.

    Livelihood my ass, EVERY other rancher pays their dues. Tell you what, you start a business and decide not to pay anyone what you owe...because you are "trying to save your livelihood", good luck with that...mooch.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So Bundy is entitled to just waltz in and do whatever he wants on it, for free?
    Sounds to me like communism.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    This thread kind of amuses me. We have a group of people here who really don't care that this guy has been breaking the law, in violation of two court orders, for two decades. They are so ridiculously anti-government that the guy is being held up as a hero for squatting on government land and trying to get the free ride they deride so many poor folks for. And when it's pointed out that this guy (like many ranchers) gets a way better deal than he would from any private landowner for grazing rights and other handouts, they handwave it away and start screaming tyranny after a bunch of people with no connection to the situation decide to mosey on out to Nevada and start waving guns around at federal employees.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, pretty much. The government has no business owning airports, parks, wildlife preserves, colleges, schools, and the military should not exist in it's current form.
    Why even have a government? Screw it, let's be Somalia.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If the property or person of someone is not aggressed upon by an action then exactly how can you argue it should be a crime to commit the act?
    By all means ... go ahead, be my guest.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    He should have to pay nothing to the Federal government for grazing that land. Why does the NATIONAL government need to own 1/2 the land in the STATE of Nevada?
    If you feel that way...patriot...then don't buy gas. Because, why the hell should you have to pay taxes to build and maintain highways in states you don't live in?

    You petulant plastic patriots, always looking for a free ride, sponging off the work and dues of others. Leave the damned country, we will miss you like we would miss a bad case of the crabs.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why even have a government? Screw it, let's be Somalia.
    Henrin is an anarchist ... I kind of like that level of extremism in a weird way ... except he won't admit it.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    .....but, only if it is something you agree with right?

    phony!
    No, sedition has no reason to be a crime.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why even have a government? Screw it, let's be Somalia.
    The only task of the government is uphold the rights of the people. The only thing you listed that does anything towards that is the military, but that is more of the exception than the rule. I much prefer the militia model over the current military model.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, pretty much. The government has no business owning airports, parks, wildlife preserves, colleges, schools, and the military should not exist in it's current form.
    There is a libertarian paradise, just like that awaiting you, move to sunny Somalia, but make sure you boil the water (who need the evil government to enforce water quality standards!) and make sure to cook the cholera out of the food (again, who needs those evil feds to ensure we don't die of food poisoning?) Make sure you have a good pact and payment plan for the teenaged tyrannical warlords in your neighborhood (who needs police to keep me safe?) Oh, and make sure that you can drive on the rutted out dirt roads (who needs the government maintaining those roads?).

    I am certain you will love your libertarian utopia, but you will probably be shot to death on the drive out from the airport (because some other individualistic utopian will decide it is just fine to kill you).

    Pack your bags, leave soon!
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