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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That photo will be exploited by the anti-gun crowd. In general the militia movement is the 2nd Amendments worst foe. As a proud gun owner I am very opposed to the militias running around threatening to shoot people that disagree with their ideologies.
    The Federal government threatens people all the time, but the people are not allowed to threaten it?
    "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    By that logic nothing is illegal.
    Nothing IS illegal Henrin...remember you are an anarchist!

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    The Federal government threatens people all the time, but the people are not allowed to threaten it?
    The US Government is we the people, so you think we should threaten ourselves?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    The Federal government threatens people all the time, but the people are not allowed to threaten it?
    That's called sedition. I would suggest that you look it up.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    The US Government is we the people, so you think we should threaten ourselves?
    Who told you the people and the government are the same group? Did you learn that in public school perhaps?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In 1864, when Nevada became a state, its citizens gave up all claims to unappropriated federal land and codified this in the state’s Constitution. The Nevada Constitution states:



    Cliven Bundy Has No Claim to Federal Land and Grazing | The Wildlife News

    This link goes further in depth in the situation, including the 1934 Taylor Grazing Act, as well as the not one but two court orders to remove his cattle from that land.

    This freeloading asshole has been grazing for free in trespass on public lands, in brazen defiance of two court orders, and the feds are finally doing something about it. Yeah, he's a real ****ing patriot.

    Of course, Bundy's claim that he should be able to do what he wants with that land since his family has been there since the 1880s (16 years after Nevada became a state) is asinine, since if we're going with the "I was here first argument," then I think there's a couple of other ethnic groups that lay a wee bit earlier claim than you do, paleface.
    It's called an enabling act. It was understood that the federal government would hold the land and then dispose of it to the state thereafter.
    http://americanlandscouncil.org/wp-c...-the-Same1.pdf
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    That's called sedition. I would suggest that you look it up.
    Which has no reason to be a crime.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So you don't care that the guy was breaking the law and violating two court orders?
    To put it simply, it doesn't matter what "laws" you break anymore when you're fighting the Federal government. Why does the Federal government need all this public land in Nevada? Are they even using it for anything? A rancher needs a lot of land, especially in a desert like area of Nevada, and when 1/2 of the land is owned by the government, that makes it quite difficult.

    This man is trying to save his livelihood, and taxes for use of "Public" land is completely stupid. Let us all pay a fee to hike in a national park the next time we visit it.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which has no reason to be a crime.
    Well of course not ...if you are an anarchist.
    Go ahead and incite a government takeover Henrin, if you have the balls.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    To put it simply, it doesn't matter what "laws" you break anymore when you're fighting the Federal government. Why does the Federal government need all this public land in Nevada? Are they even using it for anything? A rancher needs a lot of land, especially in a desert like area of Nevada, and when 1/2 of the land is owned by the government, that makes it quite difficult.

    This man is trying to save his livelihood, and taxes for use of "Public" land is completely stupid. Let us all pay a fee to hike in a national park the next time we visit it.
    And the federal government was offering him (and plenty of others) cut-rate costs to graze on that land. Money he refused to pay for two decades.
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