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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    like the weathermen underground?
    Don't bring that into this.

    Unless a government is truly tyrannical (which it is not in this case) I object to all advocating or practicing of violence to achieve political ends.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    There is a world of difference between threatening federal employees and responding to threatening federal employees.
    What the actual **** are you talking about.

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    You don't know much about history...or reading comprehension....do you?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Unless a government is truly tyrannical (which it is not in this case) I object to all advocating or practicing of violence to achieve political ends.
    Truly tyrannical? What is that exactly?

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

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    He was not ordered, to my knowledge, to cease grazing, and the cattle were not being siezed for violating such an order. The cattle were being seized for back debt. There is a difference, he was not committing a crime.
    What part of theft of service do you not understand? The man illegally brought his cattle onto government land to graze. To claim he didn't know what he was doing was wrong is idiotic. The man was indeed brought into court and on multiple occasions, lost.

    Because he stood up to an overzealous BLM.
    How is it overzealous when he's on government land committing a crime?
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Truly tyrannical? What is that exactly?
    That's a massive question you're asking, it really depends on many factors, largely it occurs where people have been stripped of their political power (right to vote, right to a fair trial etc.) but that's a question that always depends on the specific circumstances... this is not one of those circumstances.

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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    The cowards are the agents who would be willing to shoot women. Hence the strategy.
    The BLM hasn't said they were going to shoot women, the Tea Party nutsacks are the ones that want to use them as a prop to shoot innocent BLM workers while they hide behind them....

    Get a new set of idols, these people are sick, pathetic, crazy lunatics.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The BLM's tactics were over the top, heavy handed, and ridiculously oppressive while at the same time being completely unnecessary. This is exactly the type of activity the founding fathers had in mind when including the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. Protection against an over-powerful, and heavy handed, central government. It worked.
    Yeah, how dare they demand to be paid for what they are owed, go to court and win a few times, wait 20 years and go and try to get what is owed them from this mooching welfare queen!
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Like the Black Panthers, Kent State Students...etc...those morons?



    I respond in kind.
    So, you have no argument, so you bring up things that are not germane to the discussion at hand?

    Weak. Focus on what is happening here, your idol is a deadbeat who won't pay his bills, and he has a bunch of drooling gomers just itching to kill a fed.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They all stood in defiance of the govt, some armed, some not. The BLM's action were oppressive and unnecessary. I applaud those Americans who stood up against that. Even if Bundy is in the wrong for not paying the fees, the BLM's response was unnecessarily aggressive.
    No, they stood in favor of a leach who won't pay what he owes, but all the other ranchers paid, heck, this guy even paid until Clinton was elected. This clown claims there is no federal government. The BLM has every right to go and seize what is owed. You stick up for deadbeats, you are such a liberal.
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    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Don't bring that into this.

    Unless a government is truly tyrannical (which it is not in this case) I object to all advocating or practicing of violence to achieve political ends.
    but the weatherman are justified, right?
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