Page 49 of 142 FirstFirst ... 3947484950515999 ... LastLast
Results 481 to 490 of 1412

Thread: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

  1. #481
    Bat Chain Puller
    beefheart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The burning sands of the desert southwest.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    19,323

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Its his contention, and I agree with him.
    Well now, are you the Supreme Court?

    If not....your opinion means squat.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

  2. #482
    Paying To Play
    AJiveMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    wisconSIN
    Last Seen
    05-15-15 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,775

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So there's no actual facts that say the Bundy's called in the militia. Got it - that's what I thought.
    What were you saying again?

    Nevada Uprising: Cliven Bundy & Right-Wing Militias declare War on the US
    Nevada criminal Cliven Bundy, became a conservative cause clbre as Bundy set himself up as Simon de Montfort, battling the injustice and tyranny of the Federal Government.
    "My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877. All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water. I have been here longer." Cliven Bundy
    Bundy owes over $1,000,000 in fees for grazing on Federal Lands, when in 1993 he decided to stop paying fees for using public lands. Since then he has lost numerous court cases.

    But, the Right-Wing Wurlitzer of Outrage stoked the flames and invited Militias to stand with Bundy against the Federal Government.
    Disaffected and it Feels So Good: Nevada Uprising: Cliven Bundy & Right-Wing Militias declare War on the US

  3. #483
    Paying To Play
    AJiveMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    wisconSIN
    Last Seen
    05-15-15 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,775

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're turn to show your work... show me where the tea party is threatening murder and a blood orgy as it applies to this Nevada incident.
    Richard Mack describes how Bundy Ranch militias planned to put women in front to generate sympathy if any shooting began.
    So, there you have it.

    Watch: Bundy Ranch Militias Planned To Use Women As Human Shields | Crooks and Liars

  4. #484
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    SW Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:34 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    18,264

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Uh, no, All them hilbillies out there that want to use women as bullet shields as they shoot at the feds makes it such that the BLM needs to be armed. Get it?
    Well dang. That just makes it worse. Part of the war on wimmens, too then...... Actually it was the Feds who went in heavy to start with, but I can see where the possibility of whacking some hillbillies would excite some. If they work at it, maybe the feds can wipe out Bundy's whole family too.

  5. #485
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Sorry but that's a blog so not a credible source but even in the blog it stated that Bundy didn't call the militia:

    But, the Right-Wing Wurlitzer of Outrage stoked the flames and invited Militias to stand with Bundy against the Federal Government.
    So it's just like I thought and yes, there I have it, just as I suspected.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  6. #486
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Gotta say, one guy saying they were going to use women as human shields... despicable but given the amount of left wing noise in support of brown shirt government types, I'd rather have more than one person's say so.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  7. #487
    Guru

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Last Seen
    12-12-17 @ 11:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    3,899

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Gotta say, one guy saying they were going to use women as human shields... despicable but given the amount of left wing noise in support of brown shirt government types, I'd rather have more than one person's say so.
    I am not left wing.

    I can also see that Bundy and the Occupiers have alot in common in that they dont want to pay for things they purchased (their debts are uhmm... "unconstitutional"). What they dont have in common is that the Occupiers, so far, have not called up armed supporters.

    This country can afford neither Bundy nor the Occupiers.
    Last edited by Cryptic; 04-15-14 at 03:53 PM.

  8. #488
    Paying To Play
    AJiveMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    wisconSIN
    Last Seen
    05-15-15 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,775

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    The Marshals (to whom you've referred) used to string 'em up. Seriously, you don't think there are plenty of people in this country that are worth a million dollars or more? You haven't ever been involved with federal government collection methods, I take it. Doesn't it strike you as strange that if Bundy doesn't have a net worth of that amount, the government would be attempting to collect it while at the same time ignoring Berkshire Hathaway, who owed over $2 billion at last look and is eminently able to pay it? See? They'll settle that dispute in court because it's Warren Buffet. Bundy, nah. Bring on the guns, guns, guns. And that got them what?
    1,000 head of cattle, and a ranch with out buildings, yeah, he's got the money.

    If he has not, he can hire an attorney to plea his case, and possibly negotiate what he owes to a lower amount.


    But he just needed to invite militias to fight the government because he's anti government, and a deadbeat.

  9. #489
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,662

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I'm not sympathetic to anyone who owes money, if you owe money, pay it.

    I don't care if Clyde has been there since 1700. He leases the land he uses, leases usually involve monetary compensation. If you can't afford or are not willing to pay the lease fees, then get the hell off the land.

    This is also true for oil companies who lease government land for extracting oil from government owned lands, and it's true for logging companies who cut timber on National Forest Lands.

    What part of leasing don't some of the people here understand?
    First someone comes in and starts charging you rent for using your back yard that you've been using for 100+ years then they start whittling away at how you can use your back yard so you tell them to get bent.

    Sure, the guy went to court and lost but in this country that doesn't mean that legal alternatives have been exhausted. All it means is that he has to come up with another reason to contest the matter. It damned sure doesn't mean sending an armed force to seize the property.

  10. #490
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Feds move in on Nevada rancher's herd over illegal grazing

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I am not left wing. I can also see that Bundy and the Occupiers have alot in common in that they dont want to pay for things they purchased (their debts are uhmm... "unconstitutional"). What they dont have in common is that the Occupiers, so far, have not called up armed supporters.
    I have no issue with whatever Bundy owes, my issue has been and will be the heavy handed threat of armed federal officers. The only people who were shot was by the police using stun guns and attack dogs by the police. As already cited, Bundy didn't call in armed supported (ie., militia), though I'm sure many would want to push that narrative, which is so far, untrue.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


Page 49 of 142 FirstFirst ... 3947484950515999 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •